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  • #180210
    Brian blue
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    Dortmund are smiling at the prospect, however, they could also loose a lot of money because unless they offer him new terms he will be off somewhere. I doubt Dortmunds resolve on this, does not make business sense

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    #180217
    cityboy54
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    Cant see city buying grealish and kane..it will mean alot players going the other players leaving.. def dont want bernardo and gundogan to leave…although gundogan is 30 so i get that .happy for jesus and sterling to leave….doubt there will be much business until after the euros…

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    #180218
    MightyMoosMightyMoos
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    Sterling and especially Jesus are not good enough as far as the forwards are concerned so there is room for better players, Grealish is an attacking creative midfielder

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    #180222
    Brian blue
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    city boy..you are right….nothing will happen until after the Euros, so all speculation until then. I do not want Bernado to go but I think he is still miffed with the fine the FA imposed which was totally unfair and the FA did not consider the different cultures humour. Also, the alleged player it was said to, never complained because he understood it.
    I still think we maybe going for somebody younger than Kane, Haarland is a no-no at the moment and Grealish a possibility…that is how I see it anyhow

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    #180224
    nine nine nine
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    Signing a striker is the priority for Chelsea this Summer and it’s been well reported Chelsea are chasing Haaland hard and that won’t happen on the first day of the transfer window it will be a very difficult transfer to pull off three parties have to agree and then there maybe makeweights involved too.

    Seemingly Haaland wants to come to Chelsea too.

    But if Haaland ends up as a deal for Haaland coming to Chelsea next season as Dortmund may not want to lose both Haaland and Sancho for next season so be it and seemingly a Pulasic type deal might be on the cards where Chelsea pay a lesser fee than they would to get him this season and a slightly greater fee than the buy out clause to guarantee they get him for next season.

    Sometimes you have to be patient and wait for the very best although for a real title challenge next season I think Haaland signing this Summer plus one or two others would probably be necessary to do that

    Common sense seems to suggest it’s best for all three parties to agree a deal on Haaland this Summer unfortunately common sense doesn’t always prevail and Dortmund hold all the cards and their decision will be decisive but if a deal for Haaland is agreed but for next Summer rather than this Summer a la Pulasic then Chelsea need to sign a goal scorer for next season who will be a short term answer and not ridiculously expensive possibly someone like Ings.

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    #180238
    nine nine nine
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    Wijnaldum a great free transfer signing by PSG. Be expensive to replace him at Liverpool.

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    #180241
    sean the sailor
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    Seemingly winjildium wanted a 3 year deal but was only offered a two year deal.

    He also never got a raise in 5 years.

    Bad move by us in my opinion. Never injured and always klopp s favourite midfielder. Played all the time.

    Absolutely brilliant signing for 25m. A firm fans favourite. He leaves with the fans best wishes.

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    #180245
    FoxyFoxes
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    If the rumours are correct and we are in for Edouard from Celtic, we could be about to sign yet another bargain. Only just seen his highlights reel, I know it’s only the SPL but fuck he’s good!

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    #180246
    nine nine nine
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    But who he’s playing against Foxy aren’t.😊

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    #180250
    FoxyFoxes
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    many good strikers have done their time in the SPL before coming here and doing well (Viduka, Larsen, Van Hoijdonk, Di Canio)

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    #180254
    steveosnakeeyesteveosnakeeye
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    We have been linked with him for years I think he will be decent and Leicester need a vardy replacement

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    #180258
    sean the sailor
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    Ye edouard is a good player foxy. Plenty of potential and Rodgers would improve him yet again

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    #180259
    steveosnakeeyesteveosnakeeye
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    Not seen what he plays like but if he is fast it’s make sense as they are set up for that with vardy

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    #180267
    nine nine nine
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    Foxy I’ll give you Van Hoijdonk although he only did it in one season at Forest but Do Canio as good a player as he was only scored over 10 goals twice in 7 seasons in the PL and he took penalties.😊 Larsson scored 175 goals for Celtic but only 13 La Liga goals across two seasons and Viduka 92 goals across 9 seasons in England.

    The SPL is a very poor League and strikers will always store more goals in the SPL than they will the PL. Worst think you can do is look at a highlights package even Michy Batshuayi would look good in one of those.😊

    “Arsenal have been looking at Edouard for a while indeed, while they admire his talents, there are said to be doubts over whether the Celtic striker works hard enough or has the physical capabilities to compete in the Premier League.Arsenal feel that Eduardo would need to make big improvements in both areas if he was to make a splash in England, although Leicester appear to have fewer concerns.”

    To be fair Rodgers knows him well and at circa Β£15m I think he’s worth a punt.

    I wasn’t suggesting Edouard would fail just that the SPL is a poor League in which to judge players especially strikers and highlight packages make everyone look good.

    I wish him all the best though at Leicester assuming he signs.

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    #180269
    Notnice
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    None of those players mentioned were strikers, they were forwards who created and scored goals but not proper strikers

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    #180270
    sean the sailor
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    Di canio was a class player and his game wasn’t just about goals. He was excellent for West Ham.

    Larson signed for Barcalona when he was 33 and made a huge impact there as he came on and changed the 2006 cl final which Barca won 2-1. He also did his cruciate for a 2nd time while at Barcalona which limited his game time. He was also posted left in a front 3 when he did start

    Larson also scored a few goals for utd and played very well in the pl when he was 36. He was a class player

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    #180271
    nine nine nine
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    Sean, Foxy’s claim was “many good strikers have done their time in the SPL before coming here and doing well (Viduka, Larsen, Van Hoijdonk, Di Canio)” I was merely factually responding to that claim. I acknowledged that Di Canio was more than just a striker by stating “as good a player as Di Canio was”.

    The key question in all this is , is it easier to score goals in the SPL than the PL and if we’re honest about it I think we all know the answer to that.

    53 goals in 87 games by Edouard looks impressive but you have to factor in it was in the SPL. However at a suggested fee of Β£15m he’s worth a punt by Leicester imo especially as Rodgers knows him so well.

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    #180300
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    Also worth pointing out that all those Celtic forwards made the transition from the SPL to the EPL at a time when the gap in quality was nowhere near what it is now. Celtic and Rangers were good sides back then. The step up to the EPL from Scotland is huge now.

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    #180301
    FoxyFoxes
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    I mean I understand that strikers/forwards are judged by their goals but there are plenty of good strikers/forwards of the game that would fall foul of your method of judgment there Nine. Heskey is one, yet he played 60 odd times for England.
    Is Chris Sutton nothing special? He is constantly talked about as being one half of an amazing partnership and yet his PL goals to game ratio is worse than Viduka’s. Viduka scored 92 goals over 240 games. That’s a healthy return in any striker’s book. He was blighted by injuries so if you base it over seasons, sure it doesn’t look good. Similar for Dwight Yorke. He has a lower goals per game ratio than Viduka. Same for Sheringham.

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    #180305
    nine nine nine
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    Foxy, It wasn’t my judgement you put the players forward with “many good strikers have done their time in the SPL before coming here and doing well (Viduka, Larsen, Van Hoijdonk, Di Canio)” I merely pointed out their scoring records in the PL but some like Di Canio were far more than just strikers.

    Chris Sutton was one of the worst players I’ve ever seen in a Chelsea shirt. The fact that he became a regular goalscorer by going to Celtic kind of proves the point.

    As the Ed suggested the quality of the SPL has declined since the players you mentioned came to the PL and the step up from the SPL to the EPL is huge now.

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