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  • #113581 Score: 0
    CM
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    There has been a lot of conflicting information being passed around, which has confused the general public.

    Denmark reported that there was no transmission of the virus around schools, yet south korea have closed schools because there is.

    I read an article which mentioned how Cheltenham and the Atletico Liverpool game spread the virus, both outdoor events, yet Mikus’s article is saying the contrary.

    A few scientists have said this could burn itself out like sars, yet others are saying it is still something serious and will be around until we get a vaccine.

    I know someone who has had it, he went to the supermarket on good friday, queued for 20 minutes, gave up after noticing people were not sticking to the social distancing rule, went back to his car and started getting symptoms a week or so later. Thankfully recovered and didn’t need hospital treatment.

    #113582 Score: 0
    Mikus
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    CM, I think in both those big events, although outdoors, they were still quite densely packed so it wasn’t quite the same as normal outdoor events.

    Where most countries have failed is to protect the vulnerable groups, and several lockdown actions have actually worsened this problem rather than helped it. I notice nobody mentions Japan in all this, who have one of the densest populations in the world, and have just 892 deaths, and contrary to reports didn’t lockdown as severely as others. Belgium did lock down severely and has one of the largest death tolls per million in the world. Indeed there seems little correlation between actions taken by government and death rate. In most countries, we see the virus come in, spread through the population, causing significant deaths if passing through vulnerable groups, and then disappearing. Professor Gupta, of Oxford University, argues the virus is on it’s way out and that the driving force of the pattern seen is down to the built up levels of immunity in a population, which may be higher than thought because people may have built up more immunity with having had other coronaviruses. And she also points out the reliability problems with antibody tests. The R rate is principally dependent on the level of immunity in a population, so to calculate an accurate R value without a knowledge of this is pretty difficult.

    Interesting interview for those interested:

    #113583 Score: 0
    sean the sailor
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    461 pts

    I agree Mikus and said it a good few weeks back

    Far to much negativity but I’m going by the numbers our government are releasing.

    Even if they are not right, these numbers will determine if Ireland can move to the next phase. At the moment they are rising again so we may take a step back

    I’m all for pushing forward and trying to be positive.

    #113585 Score: 0
    CM
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    Fair point Mikus.

    I believe what some nations did well is how quickly their government acted. Japan, South Korea, Germany, Denmark, New Zealand and many others were on top of it right away, they either went in to lockdown or had strict rules in place.

    Whilst the UK, Belgium, US, Russia, Brazil, along with many others left it late. The delay of 2-3 weeks took its toll on the population. Sweden is another example, they are now paying the consequence, with their elderly population suffering quite heavily due to the countries approach.

    #113628 Score: 0
    nine nine nine
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    943 pts

    5 substitutes agreed by the PL Clubs for the remaining games?

    “The Premier League has confirmed that teams will be able to make five substitutions per match for the remainder of the 2019/20 season, as well as naming nine subs on the bench.

    The decision follows the Bundesliga’s path in allowing teams extra substitutions, with concerns over the fitness of players, their susceptibility to injury following the restart, and the fact that games will be played in the warmer months of June and July.

    A statement read: “Premier League Shareholders today agreed temporary changes to the rules relating to substitute players.
    “For the remainder of the 2019/20 season, the number of substitutes that can be used during a match will increase from three to five play

    “This is in line with the temporary law amendment made by the International Football Association Board last month.

    “Shareholders also approved for Clubs to increase the maximum number of substitute players on the bench from seven to nine for the rest of the 2019/20 season.” Standard 4/06

    #113633 Score: 0
    Chucky McChuckfaceChucky McChuckface
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    529 pts

    With regards to the subs, did they say about when they can make the 5? I think ze Germans still only allow 3 subs during the game (one or more players) or at half-time, not 5 seperate subs during the game?

    Can you imagine the time-wasting when you can do it 5 times during the game??? Be a nightmare!

    #113634 Score: 1
    nine nine nine
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    943 pts

    Chucky, “While each team can make five substitutions, each team will still only have three opportunities to make changes throughout the match in order to minimise disruption to the game.” BBC Football

    The above should help in that regard. Cheers 9′ s

    Chucky McChuckface
    #113639 Score: 0
    Brian blue
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    447 pts

    Now is the time when they should say 90 minutes means 90 minutes NO extra time. Players injured on pitch can be taken off by medical personnel on a stretcher, no matter what…treatment off the pitch…nearest point.

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