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  • #50185 Score: 1
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    Steve, if you honestly believe that Utd would spend what they spend on scouting and then resort to “City want Fred according to the Daily Express, so let’s go for him” then I’ve lost what little faith I had left in football fans’logic! ?.

    The same was said of Jorginho’s live to Chelsea but it’s just a ridiculous theory to suggest these players were signed simply because someone else was linked to them. Why have a scouting budget at all? Just scour the BBC gossip page on deadline day and you’re sorted right?!

    #50186 Score: 0
    Chucky McChuckfaceChucky McChuckface
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    I think they do to be honest, I have it on good authority (mine!) that Poncho reads these pages on a Daily Basis… ignores all of Bricky and my advice, mind you, otherwise Wee Erik would be on gardening leave!!!

    #50187 Score: 0
    steveosnakeeyesteveosnakeeye
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    Ed how can you talk about united and scouting with a straight face?!!! what the hell have any scouts for any manager done for a very long time? what gems have been unearthed? what established pros have been brought in and fired?

    from what i hear form most united fans your so called scouting is a joke so in all honesty it wouldnt surprise me!

    they want him? then he is good enough for us to, lets nip in and stop them strengthening and be better opurselves with no real plan

    seriously waht has fred done, whats his best position, is he worth £50m? etc

    of course i am most likely wrong and it is fan logic but i do think it does happen with certina players and especially youth/loan players where the potential cost and loss is less….especially for clubs that make £700m profit a y ear when they are tosh!! ;P

    #50191 Score: 0
    nine nine nine
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    Stevo, you know how much I respect you as a poster no offence now but I think you must have raided Adlab’s medical cabinet for his nonsense pills mate with this theory.?

    Firstly on Fred if the United scouting network is rubbish so is City’s because they both wanted him at the time.

    £50m players don’t get signed to prevent someone else signing them every Club has Scouts watching every player of any repute Fred chose United for whatever reason and it hasn’t worked out that happens at all Clubs including your own and City had a lucky escape.

    Lukaku’s signing had absolutely nothing to do with Mourinho he was signed on the recommendation of Abramovich’s personal scout Piet de Visser in 2011 when Mourinho had been left by then 4 years and AVB the recently appointed Manager at the time was moved to say at the time of the signing “it’s got nothing to do with me”.

    Any blame for Chelsea’s current transfer ban probably lays with Michael Emenalo who was Sporting Director and that might explain his sudden departure from Chelsea.

    Ironically despite Chelsea being as active as they have been in recruiting young talent from around the world it’s the local lads that have been at the Club from the age of 6/8 that are coming to the fore.

    #50192 Score: 0
    nine nine nine
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    ….in respect of Jorginho City wanted him and he was all set to sign until Sarri was appointed Chelsea Manager it was Sarri who wanted Jorginho to build his intended team around him and Sarri convinced Jorginho to come to Chelsea.

    Last season it looked like City had had another lucky escape not so much this season though.

    #50195 Score: 0
    maverick1973maverick1973
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    seriously waht has fred done, whats his best position, is he worth £50m? etc Buffy-£52m,come on mate,be exact.

    #50196 Score: 0
    maverick1973maverick1973
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    I know Swedy Edy & waspy are gonna have a go @ me,but I would marry Buffy any day and night of the week,and twice on Saturday nights.

    #50197 Score: 0
    maverick1973maverick1973
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    Stevo, you know how much I respect you as a poster no offence now but I think you must have raided Adlab’s medical cabinet for his nonsense pills mate with this theory.? 27-The only people who need to be on some serious strong stuff are those nutcases who decided to pay £52m for Fred and how much it took to sign Sanchez,not Adlab or Buffy.

    #50198 Score: 0
    steveosnakeeyesteveosnakeeye
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    im not saying they bought a £50m player JUST to stop city, im saying htere were no united rumours until the city ones started, same for sanchez and then they just stumped up more to get them, im sure someone thought they would work out but i still think NEITHER are what united wanted or needed at the time they were bought, considering Fred has barely played and played tosh when he has might back it up ;P

    anyway its a “perspective” that opposing fans can and do have with a few clubs and various times and i stand by my thoughts and am happy to be rinsed for them 🙂

    ive not been in adlabs medical cabinet but i could do with it, i cant shift this fecking flu and im bored of it now!

    #50199 Score: 0
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    Steve, no our scouting have been crap. But as Nine says, so have City’s seeing as they too wanted Sanchez, Fred etc. That you think Utd have got enough money to buy a player to stop another club signing them is just not logical, considering how badly we need players. The logic behind this argument is seemingly that people honestly think that only 1 or 2 clubs are watching players at the same time and fans seemingly think that if the gossip column says a club is watching him, nobody else will be. Scouting networks across Europe will all have dossiers on the same players and will be watching the players at the same time.

    Is it possible that Utd and City were both watching Fred. Definitely. Along with a ton of others (the fact he’s turned out crap is beside the point). Is it also possible that Utd got wind of other teams upping their interest and it pushes them into action? Of course. But, to suggest Utd buy a player to stop another club getting him or just because another club want him is, frankly, laughable.

    #50200 Score: 2
    steveosnakeeyesteveosnakeeye
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    Eddy stop! your taking away the fun of my anit united agenda 😉

    i jest and i know its right what you say but the perception of a few transfers can certainly be looked at in such a way….especially the loan systme hoovering up as much young talent as possible with no intention of every playing them or trying….

    besides i didnt say JUST to stop them, it was a “we need a player, they want them, 2 birds one stone” kinda thing….

    anyway im quite rightly on a hiding to nothing so lets swiftly move on 🙂

    last time i try to stick up for adlab ;P

    #50201 Score: 1
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    Fair enough Steve! Don’t get me wrong, though. It’s a valid point. In many ways, I’d want my club to be pushed into action if they’re watching a player and they get wind a rival club is in for him. I mean, let’s say Utd were watching Mbappe and they got wind of City starting to up their interest. It’d be wise then to try to close the deal to ensure they don’t regret it. Similarly, even if Utd hadn’t been watching Mbappe as they didn’t think he was available, then they got wind City/Liberools were watching him and thus he’s more available then they’d probably realised, I’d bloody hope they’d spring into action. This is simply good business sense (again the players here turned out to be crap but kind of beside the point).

    It’s this notion of buying players to spite other teams that I just don’t buy.

    #50202 Score: 0
    Chucky McChuckfaceChucky McChuckface
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    Can you all bugger off to whatever thread you Ugly Sisters generally use with your Norffen Willy Waving nonsense?

    Thanks!! 🙂

    SPURS GOING FORWARDS SIDEWAYS

    #50205 Score: 0
    steveosnakeeyesteveosnakeeye
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    i think youre right Ed but i havent had enough sticks to bash united with lately 😉

    Nancy….its because no wants to talk anout spuds

    #50206 Score: 0
    Chucky McChuckfaceChucky McChuckface
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    17 pages of cyber nonsense makes you comment look as silly as your defense, cyber chum!! 🙂

    #50213 Score: 1
    steveosnakeeyesteveosnakeeye
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    it would look silly if those 17 pages were all about the mighty trophy shy spuds but as you have had to create another thread because this one got hijacked it is you Sir, that looks a tad silly 🙂

    but….or defense is more than silly whatever else!

    #50217 Score: 2
    nine nine nine
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    Stevo, Adlab’s meds or not I always enjoy your posts sorry to hear you’ve got the Flu get well soon. Cheers 9’s

    steveosnakeeye
    #50218 Score: 0
    Chucky McChuckfaceChucky McChuckface
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    At least your talking about Spuds now!! I will take that as a moral victory and donate my trophy to the Spuds trophy room… just need to find the keys somewhere!

    #50219 Score: 0
    maverick1973maverick1973
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    Can you all bugger off to whatever thread you Ugly Sisters generally use with your Norffen Willy Waving nonsense? Buffy lives in Essex and is as sexy as Rachel Riley.

    #50221 Score: 0
    steveosnakeeyesteveosnakeeye
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    damn right I am redblood!….in a darkroom with a bag over my head facing the other way and you happen to be blind 😉

    Thanks 999, just the flu mate and mainly the nasty dregs after the main stuff just a total PITA!!

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