Retrospective punishment.

[Chelsea.man]

The only solution here is the refereeing consistency. just for instance, Pogba was sent off for a challenge similar to the one Alli has made on De Bruyne. and yet Alli was let off the hook, Sadio Mane was sent off for a high boot challenge and yet Harry Kane was let off the hook. Fabregas was sent off but Crouch was let off the hook, Cahill and Luiz was sent off but Dier was let off the hook. unless those inconsistencies are solved, there won’t be any agreement. that is why a ref should have a video evidence before he makes a decision.

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[Pagan]

Chelsea.man, good in theory, but you then turn a 90min game into 2 hours plus

If the ref misses an incident, when does that get reviewed as there’s no stoppage in play at the time.

I personally don’t want any video reffing during the game as it will make it too sterile, and we lose all talking points and debate.

However I think we need retrospective action to weed out the cheats

…Pagan

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[Nike19]

Mainly serial offenders Pagan.

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[Chelsea.man]

Pagan- its not only Cheating that should have to be weeded out. dangerous tackles has to be weeded out also. tackles that endanger player’s safety and career has to be taken out. for instance i don’t think if there is any problem for a ref to revisit a video evidence before he sends off a player for a dangerous tackle. instead of banning them retrospectively. because that won’t help the aggrieved club. just say an example of that could have been, if the ref has had a video evidence that Penalty wouldn’t have been awarded, which would have been a fair decision for Stoke than banning that player retrospectively.

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[Pagan]

Chelsea.man, there’s so many things that can happen that make video reffing unworkable, the ref misses an incident where a players makes a dangerous tackle, the ball doesn’t go out of play, and the next time there is a stoppage is when a team scores a goal, then what do you do, especially if the offending player scores that goal. It would all get to complicated, for what should be a simple game…Pagan

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[nine nine nine]

We’ve got goal line technology that is working, we’ve got retrospective action for diving which isn’t work 100% yet but can get close to that with a bit of tweaking and the Video Ref is bring trialled and won’t be far away but it won’t go further than offside goals and penalty claims.

The Football authorities will go no further than that imo and there is understandably a reluctance to undermine the man in the middle and re Ref games and importantly as Pagan has said games can’t run for 2 hours.

I don’t know who on here have had a go at Referring but it’s not easy and it’s very easy for Armchair critics to criticise a Refs decision when we’ve seen the Slow Mo’s and re runs they don’t see and they have to make their decision in seconds.

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[Pagan]

9, offside is another contentious one, the video refs chalk off a goal if the player scores and was then found to be offside, what happens when the officials stop the game for offside when it isn’t? It would seem that it will only benefit the defending team in that instance, where the offside law has been tweaked to give the advantage to the attacking team.

Personally I don’t like the idea at all…..Pagan

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[Chelsea.man]

I don’t we should be using Video throught the game. We will only use for instances where ww have a penalty decision. Or when a player is fouled and looks dangerous. How will that undermine the referee? I think it compliments rather than undermine him. Also we will use where the offside is given but the referee have doubts.

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[nine nine nine]

Pagan, presumably disputed offside goals would go to the Video Ref for his decision as they do in Rugby the downside of the Video Ref is that it will always hold the game up for a minute or two prior to the decision being taken.

That’s why it couldn’t go any further than offside goals and penalties.

The hold up in play compromise for getting the decisions right and we still have to ascertain how far the football authorities are prepared to go with it which is still open to conjecture. Cheers 999

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[Pagan]

9, there’s the problem, you only retrospectively look at offside after a goal to see if it should stand, if you get flagged incorrectly for offside (when you feel you are actually onside) do you ignore the refs whistle and try and put the ball in the net as that’s the only way you can get it reviewed. No more “play to the whistle” instructions.

Other than that the advantage always goes to the defending team, which is at odds to the changes to the offside law which has been changed to the advantage to the attackin team.

Rugby as you know has a signal for I have seen a potential offence and I am waiting to see if there is an advantage, that wait in rugby can be a considerable time before play is bought back should it be necessary. Football doesn’t have that signal, it has an advantage play on which is seconds after the offence and cannot be bought back should the advantage not materialise.

In order for video reffing to be fair to both teams football will have to have the same system as rugby where time is given to see what happens should a refs assistant raise his flag. What will in effect happen is the assistant will only flag when the player is miles offside and then leave everything to the video ref.

….Well that’s how I see it…..Pagan

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[nine nine nine]

Pagan, VR is all still embryonic mate we will have to wait and see how it develops if indeed it does develop and how it’s going to be used.

If it does develop I suspect it will revolve around penalty decisions yes or no goals scored off side or not everything else will fall under the jurisdiction of the match officials.

Massive subject that we wont solve on here for sure. Cheers 999

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