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  • #240070
    notorious bingo
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      I will give you the fact that that heat map shows where Gakpo is useless on the pitch because he does not go anywhere else!

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      #240071
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        #240072
        threeps
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          Personally I like to go with the eye test rather than heatmaps, or in depth analysis from members on a forum, and on Sunday I actually forgot he was playing in the 2nd half!

          Thing is we all know what it was like with Mane on that side. He was brilliant in both directions. Diaz was not a patch on Mane and I think some on here have elevated their judgement on him without remembering he was ineffective a lot of the time, but at least he was a hard worker.

          But this is Slot’s liverpool and I think Gakpo epitomises the style he wants. Slow and silky, never busting a lung, but when it works it looks nice to the purist. I think Diaz would struggle big time with this style, maybe even Mane too.

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          #240100
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            3ps, 1000% Agree first Para. I do come across modern say language spoken and words and expressions used like “but he’s got the numbers

            All I ever knew watching football in the 1990s was picking somebody on form. Yes, I do believe in ‘Form is Temporary Class is Permanent’, but nobody is immune from being substituted and nobody is bigger than Liverpool Football Club.

            The Data and facts will of course hold you in good stead and is your CV, but you then you still have to deliver and that’s ultimately what you’re paid for. In Salah’s defensive, there are fragment areas that upset the overall balance and as repeatedly mentioned here there and everywhere, he’s not surrounded by certain players and ilk of players with the skill-set and traits that he fed off and excelled.

            He getting the best out of himself by strength is when on the counter-press and links available square to centre, switch to the opposite flank, or the overlapping run on the right.

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            #240103
            notorious bingo
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              I think the difference would be a winger like Mane or Diaz, both won a title for us while being key player for us. Diaz is currently outperforming every forward we have, he is in his prime right now, take a look at what he looked like when he joined us and compare it to a recent picture of him. He was so skinny when he arrived, I actually had my doubts about him but he has really worked on his physical form. 19 goals and 15 assists this season. How is Gakpo doing?

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              #240104
              Adidas20
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                Most fans affiliated with the game and the Prem know of Gakpo’s style. It was good and welcoming and he did bring goals from cutting inside. I’m just not sure why the tools have downed on him.

                You have to be prepared to exercise through all of those areas, even the the by-line. He was definitely a different player I saw under Klopp.

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                #240105
                notorious bingo
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                  He performed while being rotated with a better player than himself in the first team. This is the only season where he has been ever present in the team. He knows he can stand there, do nothing and still be picked in the first eleven now. There is no competition for him to thrive under and every team in the league has found out how to defend against him. For example do you think he will ever score a goal while pressing the keeper like Mane did did on multiple occasions?

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                  #240106
                  notorious bingo
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                    I do like Yan Diomande, that is a naturally gifted winger that can play both flanks, it makes no difference to him whether he is playing on the left or right he will reach that byline. Transfermarkt got him on 18 games on the right wing and 9 goals, plus 6 assists. 12 on the left wing and 2 goals and 1 assist. He seems to me to have both a right and left foot. Plus the lad really wants the move to us, proven at international level as well with 9 caps and 3 goals, mostly on the left wing.

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                    #240108
                    threeps
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                      Apparently Diomande’s father is a big Liverpool fan and the player himself has declared he admires us. However I think there is an issue with 3rd party ownership or image rights or something.

                      Incidently, it was Malik Forfana last year who was the talk of the town and apparently only wanted to sign for us, think he’s having a bit of a medioce season for Lyon.

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                      #240109
                      notorious bingo
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                        3ps no player is having a mediocre season for Lyon, they went on a winning run for 13 games or something just recently.

                        He is far from the finished product though, he only has 35 games in total, in 3 seasons and only 19 years old but being clutch player for the international side says something about him while being played out of position for the national team.

                        He is a right winger actually, I thought he mainly played on the left but I was wrong about that, got a good cross in him and not afraid of beating his marker repeatedly.

                        He got work rate, he got the ability to get to the byline from either wing, he can cut inside as well, I can name his better foot but he scores and assists with his left foot as well and his goals are from all over the pitch.

                        We got goals from outside the box, we got goals with his left foot and right foot, not many headers though. I would actually compare him to Mane in style of play, letΒ΄s not forget that when Mane arrived he played on the right wing before Salah arrived. Just that one season and he was our player of the season.

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                        #240110
                        threeps
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                          Bingo, I know we argue about player roles a fair bit and again I need to correct you, Fofana is a right footed left attacker. He has 12 appearancs and only 2 goals and 1 assist this season. He’s been out with an ankle sprain since the end of October.

                          How the heck is that anything but a mediocre season?!

                          Are you actually talking about Diomande? Who plays for RB Leipzig. Not Lyon. In Germany. Not France. He can play either wing but is right footed predominatly.

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                          #240111
                          notorious bingo
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                            I was talking about Diomande being right footed and saying no player is having a average season for Lyon who have been excellent this season. I donΒ΄t know why you brought up Fofana when I am talking about Diomande? Old rumor nothing else…

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                            #240113
                            threeps
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                              Do you ever read posts Bingo or just skip through? I made a comment about Fofana being the talk of last season like Diomande is this season but hasn’t done much at all. So all the talk about Diomamde might turn out similar to the Fofana talk last season, good player whose links are exaggerated because they’ve declared their desire to play for us. Its a pretty simple link to understand.

                              If you’re solely talking about Diomande why mention Lyon? You know Diomande doesn’t play for them right? Are you confusing yourself now?

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                              #240121
                              notorious bingo
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                                Why do you jump out of bed ready to start a new argument? I like Diomande as a player, I was talking about Diomande as a player. You were talking about Fofana and somehow got it mixed up. You were talking about Lyon and you forgot to mention that they have been in excellent form of late and there is not a single player they have bought that is performing under expectations there. I donΒ΄t know why you brought up Fofana, I have not seen any clips of him and I never paid any attention to that rumor.

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                                #240125
                                threeps
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                                  I’m downplaying the Diomande rumour by using Forfana last year as an example. I think you missed the connection and that your paragpgh structure was misleading as to who you were talking about.

                                  Don’t start a paragraph with “he” if the previous one has no connection, its easy to assume the “he” is connected and thus the wrong one.

                                  But yeah Diomande, good player, loves liverpool, exactly what we need, heard that before somewhere…

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                                  #240128
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                                    Worth a read; I do like Pat Nevin. This is summed up perfectly.

                                    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool

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                                    #240129
                                    Rob Fort Worth TX
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                                      Nil, laughed at…

                                      “There was a plastic bag on the field at one point and the ball rolled over it several times – it seemed to be having a bigger impact on the game than Mo Salah.”

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                                      #240142
                                      notorious bingo
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                                        You dont have to explain what you meant, its pretty obvious, nobody cares though

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                                        #240145
                                        threeps
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                                          And nobody cares if Lyon are having a great season or have bought well. Not even relevant to anything anyone has said.

                                          You do talk some bollocks Bingo.

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                                          #240146
                                          notorious bingo
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                                            Mate you are the one carrying this nonsensical conversation… first of Fofana was sold 3 seasons ago for 17 million, very different player to Diomande who costs upwards of 80 million.

                                            There is no comparison between the two except they are forwards.

                                            And if you dont care then shut the fuck up

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