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  • #231611
    sean the sailor
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      Can anyone name on manager from a so called lower team go to top 6 pl team and win big trophies?

      Moyes to utd
      Poch to spurs
      Potter to chelsea

      Thats what will happen to iroala hes never won a big trophy.

      Klopp only one for me but that wont hapoen a million years.

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      #231613
      sean the sailor
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        You listen to the press conferences now and uts the same stuff

        No one asked him is he going to stop with these naΓ―ve tactics.

        Hes lost the players.

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        #231615
        threeps
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          Sean, if big teams only appointed ‘big name’ managers then eventually no one would appoint anyone.

          To me the driving points should be a successful tactical approach, and by that is it obvious what they are doing and it will suit our club. And do they have the personality that’s suitable?

          I’d have no issues at all appointing someone like Iraola despite coming from a smaller team.

          It’s not like liverpool have huge ego characters that need to be carefully managed by an even bigger ego.

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          #231616
          Mikus LFC
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            Sean I hear you, and I often make the point myself about the perils of managers leaving smaller clubs to bigger ones only to struggle due to the higher expectations and egos. However, I do think we are more of a tribal & community club in that regard compared to the more corporate bigger clubs if you like. I think Frank is struggling at Spurs partly down to a philosophy mismatch. Think Iraola should be more of a better fit and he also strikes me as being quite charismatic which is also important when moving to a bigger club. Am I right in saying that he’s only contracted until 2026 so presumably the buy out shouldn’t hopefully be too big? Or do we wait for Alonso, assuming Madrid get rid?

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            #231617
            Rob Fort Worth TX
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              Zidane.

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              #231618
              threeps
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                Zidane doesn’t speak English and is known to be only open to either Madrid or France.

                Besides I don’t think he’s actually tactically competent or much of man manager.

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                #231619
                Rob Fort Worth TX
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                  I get that threeps and it’s obvious he’s biding his time until Deschamps leaves.

                  As for tactics, he’s the only manager in history to win three CL leagues on the bounce. He must have got his tactics right there (regardless of personnel).

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                  #231620
                  sean the sailor
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                    Just curious name me a few managers that have made the step up? Im just wondering.

                    Iarola has done really well same as zebri . I remember people calling for zebri.

                    It very very rarely works out. Theres no one big enough to come in.

                    Theres no one really out there. I think we are going to be stuck in a mangerial cycle like utd

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                    #231621
                    threeps
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                      There’s something about him that just tells me he was in the right place at the right time. Never hear much about him when people talk about the great modern day coaches.

                      Can’t put my finger on it exactly, just get that feeling.

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                      #231622
                      sean the sailor
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                        Looks like slot is going no where for the moment so he has to change something.i get its tactics but players are strolling about drop them

                        It cant get much worse so play endo and chiesa. They will try. Absolute shite get rewarded every game by stsrty the next

                        Gakpo needs to be dropped. Most predictable player in the league.extremely frustrating Salah, eitke isak, gakpo etc have no idea how to play with each other. Give chiesa and rio
                        A chance.

                        I keep hearing chiesa is an impact player. Ffs give him a game at least he runs

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                        #231623
                        threeps
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                          As you said yourself Sean, Slot is arrogant, little chance he plays players he doesn’t believe will carry out whatever game plan he has in his head.

                          I’m hearing he could leave next week so I’d take any story with a pinch of salt.

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                          #231624
                          Rob Fort Worth TX
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                            Sean, you could say Wenger made the step up (from Japan)? Although Arteta hasn’t won anything, he’s done a good job at Arsenal?

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                            #231625
                            Mikus LFC
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                              Yeh I think Zidane is Madrid’s β€œbreak glass in case of emergency” option. Like his Madrid connection and aura is enough in itself to raise the team up. A galactico manager for me.

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                              #231626
                              sean the sailor
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                                Play robbo. Tactics are killing kerkes but he stumbling over the ball. Hrs giving it everything no lack of effort but his defending and general play has been shocking.

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                                #231627
                                threeps
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                                  Well de Zebri I think is manager of Marseille and doing pretty well so far in the league so he’s doing alright.

                                  We had this conversation last season and Slot won us the league coming from a relative small club. OK he’s lost thr plot this season but that’s another thing.

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                                  #231630
                                  redwarrior
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                                    So it does look like, Slots got the next 3 games to save his job. I really do hope he makes some changes. Drop Konate, kerkez, gakpo and salah. Don’t care who replaces them.

                                    The mind boggles why he has persisted with the same players who are not performing. If he wants to play a certain way, use the squad more.

                                    Regarding the potential next manager. De zerbi is not a bad shout. I think we need a manager who is not scared to show some passion. Someone similar to Klopp as it suits the club and fans, than the passive Slot.

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                                    #231631
                                    sean the sailor
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                                      Fair comments lads!

                                      Agree red warrior, play endo let him sit un front of the back 4 as shite as the tactics are i still believe a lot players are just playing terrible

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                                      #231632
                                      Adidas20
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                                        Apparently, there’s an ultimatum given that he needs to win the next 2 games. From the Press Conference, it would be totally naive to think talks held would have been in the same breath as any other previous talks.

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                                        #231633
                                        Adidas20
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                                          That’s the headscratcher of this season red-warrior. Apart from playing 4-4-2 for a European match, it’s pretty much been same old same old.

                                          He needs to be bold and drop players and select from the squad he has and show to us there’s purposeful change made to try and turn things around.

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                                          #231634
                                          sean the sailor
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                                            Our biggest problem for month’s and months now is conceding goals.

                                            Its just really astounds me how managers like slot, ten hagg, ang, amiron are so stubborn about their systems and tactics when they are not working. Its plan b or nothing and its just stupid. Its gets them the sack,

                                            Their egos make them stick with this bullshit of football that the normal man on the street can see multiple holes in. Just maddness.

                                            It just baffles me that they petsist with it when it just produces the same resukts time and time again. Mind boggling

                                            Its not fucking working change it.

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