17th October 2017 at 2:56 pm #6235
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Big JimParticipant182 pts
Pep might theoretically take a point at Anfield if offered?? but does anybody think he would set out the team for a point. No chance, he seems to approach every game exactly the same be it Stoke at home or Chelsea away, it’s just pass, press and attack.17th October 2017 at 3:36 pm #6240
Genuine question for the Liverpool fans on here.
If you could have gone to City and played the way Utd did and come away with a point, would you have been dissatisfied with that?
Equally, Spurs fans, if you went to Madrid and played the same way but came away with a point, would you accept that?
No hidden agenda behind these questions. I’m just trying to gauge to what extent fans are willing to overlook the style of play in a one-off game if it means getting a result you’re happy with. I know people will say Utd should be beating this Liverpool side whereas the above examples are both not expected to get anything, but try to ignore that point for now.17th October 2017 at 4:09 pm #6244
Ok Ed…straight answer is no, I would not have been dissatisfied with that, for the simple reason that City are unfortunately better than us. I would be happy with a point at the Etihad, of course I would, as would Spurs be happy with a point tonight, I would imagine. My argument with Morinho’s tactics is simply that if he is happy with that point, he appears to not believe that United are better than Liverpool, despite all the stats saying otherwise this season. Pep thinks his team are the best, ergo he can go to Stamford Bridge and attack Chelsea. If Mourinho wants to win the league, he surely has to believe his team are better than a struggling Liverpool side.17th October 2017 at 4:50 pm #6245
Fair points Hightown. For me though, and seemingly for José too, Liverpool away for us is, in many ways, as hard a game as either of the ones I mentioned above. On paper, we have a more expensive squad and probably more match winners but this is probably the one game where form means nothing. Leaving Anfield with a defeat is much more unacceptable than playing defensively.
In all honesty, José probably did pay Liverpool a bit too much respect. But Liverpool raise their game for Utd more than any other game and the home crowd is a massive asset. My point is that I think we’d all agree there are certain games where we’d all rather our clubs sacrificed an attacking style of play and settle for a point. We just disagree on where those boundaries go.17th October 2017 at 5:18 pm #6246
ed – i would most definitely take a point putting in a defensive performance. not only because we are away to the best team in the world at the moment but also because it would be a massive step towards qualification. against dortmund we put in a very disciplined performance, we sat back and hit them on the break. a repeat of that tonight is highly unlikely but knowing we can put in that kind of mature performance was great to see.17th October 2017 at 5:45 pm #6247
Ed – if we raise our game against United and the home crowd is a massive asset as you say, the results since the Premier League started doesn’t back up that statement. In league games at Anfield, we have won 8, drawn 4 and lost 12 against you in that time. You have won there many times when we have had a far better team than we have now!17th October 2017 at 6:00 pm #6248
Yeah that’s an important point I’d overlooked Hightown!17th October 2017 at 6:11 pm #6249
nine nine nineModerator572 pts
Hightown, Personally I think Klopp could have been a bit more adventurous in the final 30 odd minutes of the game when it only looked like Liverpool would win but I can understand why he wasn’t a loss to United would have been hard to take.
Whether it was a good point for United or not we won’t know until the end of the season and if City were to go to Anfield and win which is not impossible instead of a point gained for United it would be 2 points lost. Cheers 99917th October 2017 at 6:13 pm #6250
Chucky McChuckfaceParticipant331 pts
Some serious debates within debates within debates breaking out, careful lads! 🙂
For what it’s worth, I also reckon Maureen showed a bit too much respect to Pool. I’m thinking when the majority of teams set out as defensively as YooUtd did, you’are almost admitting to yourself that the opposition is that good (or your that bad). Going away from the topic slightly, I also think chopping and changing your team is perhaps not as beneficial as keeping your team consistent. I think a lot of Spuds recent success is down to a more consistent formation, or even when changes are made, they are kept for a period. The Dortmund game does fly against that, but that was very much a one-off in my mind (although I do half expect the same tonight to be honest, as our mid-field isnøt exactly at it’s strongest right now!)
On a side note, are there any Micky Mousers playing for the Scousers? Not a Pool fan, granted, but I was having a hard time identifying them as a typical Pool side I remember from yesteryear…17th October 2017 at 8:37 pm #6262
The only one is Alexander Arnold who is playing tonight but we are short of Scousers18th October 2017 at 9:59 am #6287
Big JimParticipant182 pts
Nine, Liverpool away is probably our hardest fixture. We haven’t won at Anfield since an Anelka brace about 15 years ago. The Scousers definitely have a hoodoo over us at there’s.18th October 2017 at 12:36 pm #6296
nine nine nineModerator572 pts
Jim, whatever the result for City at Anfield this season mate I’m convinced that City have enough in their lockers to win the PL quite comfortably.
It’s not won yet of course but City look more than a class above any potential challengers. And that’s before Sanchez arrives.?18th October 2017 at 3:54 pm #6304
We all knew Jose will do this,so do not understand people getting taken by a surprise!.Trying to find an excuse how you do not have the attacking talent to be more attack-minded,when you have the likes of Mata,Mikhy,Martial and Rashford,it is a lain joke.He clearly went to Anfield not to get beaten!.18th October 2017 at 11:06 pm #6314
Oz YobParticipant32 pts
Good points all round. For me I thought we were there for the taking, out of form, low on confidence & a clean sheet to us is something you get from the dry cleaners. They on the other hand were full of confidence, scoring & not conceding & right up the pointy end of the table.
That said as I’ve mentioned before, if you don’t lose to the top teams & beat most of the lesser teams you will be up there abouts come seasons end. Problem for manu doing that this season is c$ty will not drop many points at all, they are streets ahead of the rest so if manu want a shot at the title draws against out of form teams won’t be enough, they’re gunna have to keep winning.
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