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    nine nine nine
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    Jim, the post above should have said “and Mourinho won’t care if it’s a nil nil draw or a one nil breakaway win even with the game being at OT.” ?

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    Oz Yob
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    As a Liverpool supporter I think it’s very smart to do what he does. Like or loathe him (I’m obviously the latter) he knows how to win trophies. Get draws away to the better teams, even at home isn’t a bad thing, then beat the so called lesser teams & you’ll be up there abouts come seasons end. Obviously there will be an upset or 2 over the course of a season but ultimately the chances of winning things increases if your not losing to your rivals.
    It’s not good to watch but it’s bloody effective.

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    goatistuta
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    Ed I see what youre saying mate, just my mates in sunny Stretford just don’t like the closed shop attitude of Mourinho, they say it’s why they hated him when he was Chelsea manager, but hey we will see how the season roles.

    There’s 6 teams that can take the 4 top spots unlike years before where 4 into 4 went very nicely indeed. No Matter where those 6 are right now any of them can still win this title.

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    newbalance
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    I’m with Oz Yob and Chucky.

    Without getting hung up on this, if you think in context of when he Managed Inter, he’d be able to get you a result. Like Rafa when he first joined Liverpool, he was ultra disciplined on defending as a first.

    People get wound up about this because Jose was the one who invented the phrase ‘park the bus’ after the 0-0 Spurs draw where I think he had an expectation to take all 3 points. It’s a classic case of ‘one rule for one and one for the other’.

    Wasn’t he a bit begrudging when United couldn’t turn draws into wins and teams like Burnley last season stole all 3 points. If he showed more humility and grace to opposition teams, then maybe he himself would be better received.

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    newbalance
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    And to add, I wonder if Jose will employ these tactics when his side travel to the Ethiad, meaning that he’s not just got something against Liverpool.

    The only other thing I’d say as a quickie is that if these games are ending 0-0 with a team just solely focusing on nullifying a good attacking side, then perhaps with 0-0 draws, FIFA if anyone could maybe consider the idea of a 15 minute ‘powerplay’ after the game.

    Obviously that’s an opportunity to throw in the kitchen sink and one with the most goals of course takes all 3 points.

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    Hightown hope
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    While his park the bus tactic has been effective over the years, I think this year will be different. If he and the United fans want to WIN the league they will have to get above City, and one point at Anfield is not going to do that. God knows we were there for the taking with our poor run of form, our dodgy defence, our lack of Mane and of course United’s good form.

    I’m just surprised at the United fans not seeming to realise that they are going to need something special to keep up with their neighbours this year and that won’t do it for them, in my opinion.

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    Mikus
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    I’m with Oz yob on this. Mourinho always plays the percentages and in this particular game he simply deemed it too risky to have a go. I also think that even though Man Utd have spent a lot of money, they still have a dearth of match winners and I think this fed into José’s thinking at the weekend. I just don’t think José has quite the side he did whilst at Chelsea during the years he won it. If you compare the spines – De Gea is obviously strong enough, but in defence they are not quite there IMO. In midfield he’s very close having Matic & Pogba, but again, I just think Makalele/Lampard & Matic/Fabregas were more refined and reliable. As for up top, again I think Drogba & Costa were still that bit more reliable/refined than Lukaku. Mourinho needs a very specific spine for me, and he just hasn’t quite got it yet though he is close to it.

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    Good post Mikas. Can’t disagree with any of that

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    nine nine nine
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    Mourinho’s tactics on Saturday are certainly not just reserved for Liverpool he’s always played this way he is a pragmatic Manager and in a title challenge in certain games he will seek to nullify the opposition at least try and take a point and hopefully all three on a breakaway.

    I don’t quite understand why no one is questioning Klopp’s tactics the game was there for the winning yet Klopp took off the two best players on the pitch in Salah and Coutinho and didn’t bring on a recognised striker until there was circa 10 minutes to go and in his post match interviews he admitted to being concerned that to go for the game might lose him the point which was also Jose’s philosophy.?

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    Chucky McChuckface
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    Problem with Maureens “Bus” strategy this year is the very likely prospect that ManCity aren’t going to drop enough points of their own to make it worthwhile.

    Off course, I can already hear Maureen at the end of the season, playing his “didn’t get enough resources/support from the board” record….

    As for Klopp, at least he went for it for the first 70mins or so.

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    Oz Yob
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    Nine, yeah question why Klopp swapped 2 midfielders for a striker & a midfielder, very negative. Couts had a fair journey & probably wasn’t at his best & Salah i can understand as well as he has played pretty much all the time. IMO it wasn’t a negative move & it’s not like we didn’t maintain the dominance. Ox in particular looked good to me. I get why you like jose as he done well with your lot but there’s not too many neutrals that like him or his football.

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    nine nine nine
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    Oz tbh actually I don’t like Mourinho very much but I do respect him as being a great tactician and a winning football Manager.

    Klopp admitted in his post match interview that he didn’t go for it because he didn’t want to end up with nothing and tbh imo he’s not been at his usual effervescent best over the past few weeks and I think the pressure has been getting to him a bit and he wanted to avoid all the pressures that would have come on him had United broken away and won that game had he gone for it.

    A point at Anfield in most seasons would be considered a good point and it might still well be if that point is the difference between United beating City to the title. Personally in this season I’m not sure it will be with this City team.

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    Hightown hope
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    999…that’s the whole point..in this season of Man City looking so powerful, one point at Anfield will more than likely not be enough. If ever there was a time for him to try and get 3 points, this was it. They were in form, we weren’t, they were scoring goals, we weren’t, they were keeping clean sheets, we weren’t, and most importantly City need to be kept in sight.

    As for Klopps tactics, as Oz said above, Couts had played 89 minutes 60 hours before and had a long flight home. I was at the game, and he looked ‘leggy’ from early on. Salah had been very effective in the first half but had faded significantly in the 2nd half…and Sturridge and Ox were hardly brought on to shore up our defence!

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    nine nine nine
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    Hightown, I think you’re right this season it may not be but if Liverpool were to beat City at Anfield which is definitely not impossible it could be a very good point.

    I think Mourinho went into the game hoping for all three points but happy to leave with a point. If you offered Guardiola a point at Anfield now my bet is that he would take it.

    You can say what you want mate but Klopp is on record as saying he didn’t go for it in the latter part of the game because he didn’t want to risk ending up with no points. No recognised striker until the 80th minute at home was disappointing imo because had Klopp been a bit more adventurous Liverpool could have won that game.

    A point gained for United or two points lost we’ll have to wait and see.

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    Hightown hope
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    No recognised striker till the 8th minute? We very rarely do play with a ‘recognised’ striker. Against Arsenal Sturridge came on in the 74th minute and no one was disappointed. It’s the way we line up…don’t be disappointed!

    While Klopp didn’t go gung-ho at the end throwing 11 men in to the United penalty area, there was still only one team trying to win the game right to the end

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