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  • #196934
    sean the sailor
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    Ha ha was joking mate 😂

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    #197033
    Nike19
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    First thing to smile about in ages and wow, doesn’t Carvalho look good; vision and balance.

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    #197037
    sean the sailor
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    Nunez is very raw. I don’t even think he will start the season . I think he be bedded in like robbo and fabhino etc.

    I think Klopp will improve him but if he doesn’t score in his first few pl appearances the trolls be out.

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    #197042
    Brian blue
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    Always the way Sean. nobody gets time these days from our know all critics, all clubs have them
    Give the lad at least a full season, I am sure Klopp will handle him well and not bother what anybody says….just right

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    #197053
    Nike19
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    I think the idea of 4-2-3-1 has been spoken about and the possibility of Klopp adapting. I don’t like to say this, but unless Henderson is used in the right-hand side, with less game now going forward, I think he’s more of the weaker link for us in the middle. Ideally we can play Tiago and Fabinho.

    Nunez just needs to be able to fit into our system in the way we can get the best out of him. I think Salah will enjoy his company 🙂

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    #197057
    sean the sailor
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    Ye Brian, unfortunately he won’t get time because of his fee mate. It’s like Grealish. Pep said it would take him
    A season to bed in but the vultures were out.

    The fickleness in football drives me spare. Few bad games and players are wrote off. Same as when they have a few games.

    The English press are the worst.

    One example is Ramsdale. Absolutely over hyped after a decent few ganes.

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    #197069
    Nike19
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    Nature of the beast Sean mate. Those summers still feel pretty fresh in my memory when for example we signed Stan back in 1995 for 8.5 million. Huge fee and a huge weight of expectation, but he debuted against Sheffield Wednesday with a cracking curling shot.

    If Darwin can produce anything like that, he’ll be a joy. I have a feeling he could be like Nando, if Klopp gets the right style and formation.

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    #197070
    sean the sailor
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    Nil, hopefully Darwin can hit the ground running mate. He has all the attributes to succeed with us but he needs to get off to a good start. I’m always hugely confident that jurgen can improve any player that we sign.

    Also he will be getting great service from our two full backs.poking forward to the new season and watching us play again

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    #197078
    Mikus LFC
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    Going out on a limb here, but think Carvalho may be as big a signing as Nunez. We really need someone of his ilk in midfield to link up to the attack. I do worry about our other midfielders in general though. Keita overall has been about average. Fabinho I just don’t hold in the same regard as others do, Thiago is injury prone and can be too casual, and Henderson is just someone I see now who helps tick things over. As ever though under Klopp, the overall collective can paper over these things.

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    #197350
    Nike19
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    Hopefully a kick up the bum for players. I know not to read too much and we have 37 matches, but dropping points at places where we shouldn’t be dropping points ultimately cost us the league title.

    It’s a farce that we lose out twice in 3 years. Manchester City pipping us.

    I know there’s huge support for Trent, but sometimes, the man needs competition because let’s be honest, he’s been beaten. Matip too. Konate needs to be the main man.

    We’ve lost creativity in our midfield. What is the situation with Ox? What does Klopp intend to do with him? I think we should have gone for a new midfielder in the summer.

    Hopefully we get our mojo back next Monday Night which I’m sure we will. It’s early days and maybe this result is better sooner than later so we can learn from it.

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    #197354
    sean the sailor
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    Elliot provides that bit of creativity hopefully now nil mate.

    Thisgo be out for a while. We just need to stay calm. It’s one game

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    #197355
    Nike19
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    Sean, actually my bad mate. I didn’t realize until I checked how many key players are injured. Yeah, it can only get better. We did well coming back twice, so maybe yesterday wasn’t as bad as I’ve made it out to be.

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    #197356
    Mikus LFC
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    Much is made of our transfer success, but £100 million on Keita & Fabinho I don’t think is the best business we did and is perhaps costing us now given the model we have at the club with regards to buying players.

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    #197359
    sean the sailor
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    I know you not a fan of fabhino mikuis but I think he brought us that level along with vvd and Alisson. We were never as open. Cl win and pl win in his first two seasons. When he doesn’t play well, we don’t.

    I get some of your concerns over him. He was dreadful ydsy but is an excellent player for us the majority of the time

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    #197361
    Mikus LFC
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    As I’ve said before Sean, I think 15 years ago Fabinho would rightly have been considered a top defensive midfielder and I agree he’s a good reader of the game. But in this era of fast flowing football you’ve also got to be quick as a defensive midfielder and he just gets bypassed too easily at times. He’s been a success in the sense that we needed a defensive midfielder and he is one, but I think we could potentially have had more success with one who also had pace.

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    #197364
    Nike19
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    Henderson was the only midfielder taking a shot outside the box. I heard on a radio interview of Eddie Howe, the guy who scored for Newcastle wasn’t supposed to take that shot and the boss would have given him a telling off, so it makes me wonder whether Klopp has instructed anything similar and players just don’t have the license (as they should).

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    #198057
    Mikus LFC
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    “…we tend to deal with what we have. It would be cool to have new midfielder in, of course”

    That to me translates as Klopp diplomatically appealing for help.

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    #198070
    Nike19
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    It’s one thing after another when it comes to injuries; 10 players! Which other club currently is experiencing this?!

    I understand and agree with the thoughts of Harvey Elliot and Curtis Jones, but I still feel we need an attacking aggressive and creative midfielder.

    Klopp is heading into the twilight too with his legacy. We should really have had another PL Title in the bag. We didn’t and it’d be nice to win one more before he leaves to equal Manchester United’s record.

    He needs to rebuild there’s no burying heads in sand with that. We’ve got players that soon are going to have to hang their boots and they will no doubt need replacing.

    I agree though with Klopp’s sentiments in not signing someone for the sake of it.

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    #198304
    Nike19
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    Such joy. Wish the previous matches were untelevised. We met United at the wrong time and the media placed so much spotlight onto them that Ten Hag had to get a reaction out of his players.

    Shame Man City didn’t drop points yesterday, but I knew all along 2-0 up was just a pipe dream. They’re just too good and always find a way.

    All those players or at least some of those players that have been criticized in one shape or form or another delivered! Harvey Elliot’s goal was the best of the lot for me.

    Weirdly, I had a flash back of Fernando Torres’ volley v Blackburn in 08/09 – Pure Magic. Beautiful Sunshine. Big games versus Newcastle and the Mersey derby this coming Saturday. 2 Wins would be great. Hopefully now we are back on track and some of our injured players return. We still need a new Midfielder!

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    #198306
    Mikus LFC
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    Afraid I’m not so forgiving nil. Why is it acceptable that the players can perform poorly and then “react” like yesterday? If in any other walk of life you didn’t try hard in your job, you’d rightly be disciplined right away. But now the players suddenly perform again with extra zip, and all is forgiven and normal service resumed? Injuries – fine. Players not quite in their groove yet after pre season? – fine. But not trying hard enough in games and being out fought by the opposition? Sorry, not for me. I wish all these players would get off social media. I see Trent tweeted on 30th July saying “we’re ready”. We’ll obviously they weren’t and the only tweet about the league since then was one revelling in yesterday as though the previous games didn’t happen. It winds me up.

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