31st October 2019 at 10:51 am #51496
Mav, one of the reasons why I love and value my Domestic Cups mate. The Kids in reality are not going to get many opportunities on the mainstream unless something is in place.
We don’t get to really see them and equally, they don’t get their chance or their opportunity is limited. They are eventually loaned and sold off.
There is plenty of natural talent out there. I think selection wise, they’ve just got to mix it up with older heads so they’re there to rely on for guidance and support.
Cheers31st October 2019 at 11:06 am #51501
Crickey… the liverpool game was an absolute treat. brilliant for a nuetral, had both game sup in the pub. Cracking atmosphere too.
On Chelsea, United have done us twice in three months. We just didnt have the ability to break them down. Uniteds performance was a huge step in the right direction andreminded me a lot of a SAF side. Mctominay could have seen red, he’s a meat head in the making and i think united deserved it last night. Not sure where Rashfords knuckle ball came from, very drogbaesq. Was seriously impressed with Wan Bissaka, hardly any change given on united right. Same can be said for Chelsea too with James. Couple that with Trent Arnold and England have options. Wilock hit a fantastic goal, as for strikers, that Brazilian gooner looks a player in the making. Holding back last night and Gomez, probably didnt cover themselves in glory but it was a night for the attackers. Chelsea fans, Michy can do a job, that goal was a screamer and made out of nothing given he fed off scraps.
Not overly fussed about going out last night, I think Chelsea need the league over a league cup run. Absolute belting night of football.
31st October 2019 at 1:04 pm #51509
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I’m sympathetic to Liverpool’s tough fixture schedule in December but it’s not like Liverpool didn’t know they were competing in the Club World Cup in December or that given how good the team/squad is there wasn’t a very good chance that they would have to play a Qtr Finals of the Carabo Cup in December.
All of this would have bee known well before the Season started.
The EFL(it is a Football League competition and nothing to do with either the the FA or the PL)say they are in talks with the Liverpool to identify an alternative date.
Seemingly given Liverpool’s December fixture list the only place to play their Qtr Final is on the first Semi Final date for the Carabo Cup in January with that Semi Final moved back to accommodate it and to me that appears to be the most sensible compromise short of 3am on Christmas Day.😊
I’m sure that the EFL and Liverpool will find a solution but the solution can’t be Liverpool dropping out of the competition after entering it knowing all the circumstances.
In a worse case scenario imo Liverpool would have to field their U23/Youth team v Villa.
31st October 2019 at 1:08 pm #51511
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Moos-Come on pal,Chelsea only lost cos it played the reserve team full of youth,othewise it easy would have beaten us.Even back in August Chelsea were extremely unlucky,should have scored 3,@ least.And its only the micky-mouse comps anywways.31st October 2019 at 1:38 pm #51515
The next J.Sancho??31st October 2019 at 1:43 pm #51517
999, i think liverpool should bow out and we should step in 😉31st October 2019 at 2:10 pm #51518
“but it’s not like Liverpool didn’t know they were competing in the Club World Cup in December “
Nine you make it sound like the situation is Liverpool’s fault, what exactly did you expect them to do? Forfeit the tie? Play the kids increasing our chance of losing? Oh wait we did that.
The EFL had known that an English team would be playing in the Club World Cup as early as 8th May so surely they should of foreseen the chance this situation could occur and shoulder the blame?
31st October 2019 at 2:59 pm #51521
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threeps, as I said I’m sympathetic to Liverpool’s fixture problems my point was where Liverpool find themselves in December shouldn’t have been a suprise to the Club it was always likely to happen.
Personally I think talking of pulling out of a competition once you’ve entered is unacceptable.
The only two options imo are to find another date ie January which currently looks the most likely solution or play a scratch team v Villa whilst the first team squad battle it out for the Club World Cup.
Suggestions that Liverpool might pull out from Klopp last night was perhaps understandably said to put pressure on the EFL in order for the EFL to find a suitable compromise date which I’m sure both the EFL and Liverpool will do.
Unfortunately or perhaps more importantly fortunately success always adds lots of extra fixtures which are always difficult to deal with no matter who the Club is.
Clubs just have to get on with it and accept the difficulties they face which is because of how succesful they have been/are. United didn’t enter the FA Cup one year due to the problems they faced in competing for the Club World Cup.
Tell you what though I would much rather that Chelsea were wrestling with Liverpool’s current fixture problems as I suspect most non Liverpool fans would.😊31st October 2019 at 3:11 pm #51522
Stevo@1:43pm Lol! Of course you do.😊31st October 2019 at 9:28 pm #51527
Almost as if the big teams were seeded for the draw to avoid them clashing too early in the competition. Would not be surprised if the big two are not kept apart when the semi final draw is done as well. Four of Premier League’s current top 7 remain. Who said this was a Micky Mouse competition that the bigger clubs just take for granted? Oh right 999 I am on the wrong site. It is probably not very wise of me to ask but where is he anyway? Not complaining mind you 🙂31st October 2019 at 9:45 pm #51530
67, don’t tempt fate mate.😊1st November 2019 at 10:03 am #51546
the LC problem is a great problem to have but at the same time, it’s something that parties need to be as flexible as possible with because it’s also not a problem that came about by choice.
I said before that the bigger more successful clubs should have bigger squads but I guess I just mean players in general. We have youth players and we should use them in the LC. We have reserve and fringe players who need game time, especially to help us through the tougher proper matches. Admittedly, the latter stages of the LC become important but the World Championships trumps it for me. So, I say only this. If a decent fixture cant be found then we have every right to opt out, or play the kids. They are one and the same, kinda, so just give the kids that experience and move on to the important matches.1st November 2019 at 10:06 am #51547
“Almost as if the big teams were seeded for the draw to avoid them clashing too early in the competition. Would not be surprised if the big two are not kept apart when the semi final draw is done as well.”
I never get this kind of talk. Liverpool have already drawn Arsenal. They are not keeping PL sides apart and you should bare in mind that random draws will almost always have perceived patterns in them. that’s mathematics.1st November 2019 at 1:10 pm #51551
steveosnakeeyeParticipant128 pts1st November 2019 at 1:27 pm #51552
Mak, just to confirm I’m not having a go at anybody but I don’t think any Club no matter the circumstances should be allowed to drop out of any competition once they’ve entered it.
I’m sure that the EFL will find a solution with Liverpool probably by moving their Qtr Final to the date of the Carabo Cup Semi Finals and by playing the second Semi Final a week or two later which seems the sensible compromise.
Clearly given their current fixture list December is not an option for Liverpool and the World Club Cup has to be Liverpool’s priority.
In the unlikely event that a new agreed date for the Carabo Cup Qtr Final can’t be found then I wholly agree with your “so just give the kids that experience and move on” . But I don’t think it will come to that. Cheers 9’s
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