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  • #10402
    nine nine nine
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      Asensio plus £150m sounds a tad optimistic to me.

      If Barca bid circa £120m for Coutinho and Mbappe and Neymar joined PSG for £166m and £196m respectively Hazard will probably go for something between the bottom and top prices.

      Chelsea will be reluctant sellers and won’t deal easily and Marina is known for striking the odd good deal when selling our players.

      As Chelseaman says Real are desperate to rebuild in the Summer given the season they are having and there aren’t too many Hazards available on the transfer market if Real don’t meet Chelsea’s valuation given their reluctance to sell I can see Roman telling them to swivel.

      Circa £100m and Asensio would probably suit all parties but we’ll see.

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      #10403
      Pagan
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        9, telling them to swivel is all well and good, but then we have a rapidly depreciating asset, which Real will know. It’s a fine line to tread….Pagan

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        #10404
        nine nine nine
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          Pagan, true enough mate but equally I suspect if Real move for Hazard they really want him and there are very few players as good as him available and Real are currently in a mess and desperate to rebuild in the Summer its all about the negotiation mate.

          Trust in Marina she’s a Rottweiler particularly on sales out!?

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          #10405
          Chelsea.man
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            The problem is that Hazard has two more years in his contract. And if Madrid wants him they will only get when they meet the Chelsea valuation. For instance even if you value Asensio at £50m then we should still demand £120m at least. Ok i’m not a fan of Asensio but he is a very good player who has an eye for goal. And Real might sanction his sale. If Madrid miss signing Hazard this summer, then they won’t get a better chance. Personally i’m confident the club can find another quality. Real Madrid wants players and they are desperate. We can squeeze more out of them. One example is £53m for Costa a player who was not wanted and had 2 years left on his contract. Guess what Marina will demand for Hazard who is our star player??

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            #10409
            Pagan
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              Chelsea.man, there are of course 3 parties in a deal, in this case Chelsea, Hazard and maybe Real. Obviously Chelsea want the biggest wedge they can get, Real want the opposite.

              Personally I think Real need a major overhaul, which I don’t believe they can do in this window and the summer. In some respects they are in a similar position to Liverpool, in that it’s the back they need to strengthen first.

              Obviously Hazard running his contract down not only benefits Real, but also himself, as the less they spend on “buying him” the more they can spend on his wages.

              You mentioned Ronaldo leaving Man U, and them still winning trophies, Ronaldo’s last 3 seasons there they won the league 3 times on the bounce, they’ve won it twice since..Pagan

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              #10410
              maverick1973
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                Pagan-I can see Hazard costing £150m if Coutinho costs £125m! But you`re right,the players holds all the cards now unfortunately for the selling club.Especially if Hazard rejects the contract offer.

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                #10413
                Chucky McChuckface
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                  Isn’t Wee Phil younger than Hazard and also have a longer contract? Not going to compare them as players but purely based on those two facts I’d be very surprised if Hazard goes for more than Wee Phil.

                  And I also doubt very much the younger Real “Can’t Beat Spuds” Madrid are going to offer any youngsters as part of the deal, it will be the likes of Bale, Modders, maybe even Benzema and RonnyII…. not you Disco Isco’s and Assisioenososo’s..

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                  #10418
                  Chelsea.man
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                    I can’t see Real offering Modric. Because he is their best CM. Bale is a possiblity. But again how much they value could be interesting. I dout if they will offer £150m cash. I think the most likely player could be Asensio. As he will be the player that is most likely affected by Hazard’s arrival. But i won’t mind taking Bale also. Just also to get one better over Mourinho?. If we can keep Bale fit he will be an asset for the club as he is at the prime of his career. We can get 5-7 years from him. And our medical department has a good reputation. Our players rarely get injured.

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                    #10423
                    maverick1973
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                      Modric is 33 soon and Bale is very injury-prone he is finished @ the top.Hope Jose stays away!

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                      #10424
                      Chelsea.man
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                        I think what Bale needs is good management. And if he is carefully managed he will be an asset to whichever team he joins. He is a left wing/forward with pace and good shooting accuracy. He is good in the air. Ok he may not posses the technical ability of Hazard. But he can give you goals if you can keep him fit. Also Ronaldo is over shadowing him. Give him the main man tag and will deliver.

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                        #10427
                        nine nine nine
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                          We might all be jumping the gun , there’s been no contact from Real and a Chelsea club official has confirmed no new contract has been offered to Hazard yet because it’s not club policy to offer new contracts when there is more than two years left on the existing contract?

                          Personally I think there’s no smoke without fire but the fact is with two and a half years left on Hazards contract Chelsea are in the driving seat if any deal is going to get done and that if Hazard does eventually go to Real next summer it will be for a massive fee breaking the British transfer record and it might well include a Real player that suits Chelsea coming the other way.

                          I wouldn’t take Bale as a makeweight as good as he has been he’s too old his game is reliant on speed which diminishes with age and injuries and he is now far too injury prone.

                          The only two Real players Chelsea should consider as part of the deal imo are Isco and Asensio both of whom are close to Morata, Isco and his girlfriend having spent the last few days with Morata and his wife in London.

                          If Madrid aren’t prepared to offer those players as part of the deal then they will have to stump up the full very significant fee.

                          I’m not sure this is the best time for Hazard to be joining Real though they are in significant decline and are likely to end the season empty handed an ageing Ronaldo still holds considerable sway at the club and can be difficult the squad is ageing and Zidane may well be gone by the Summer.

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                          #10429
                          Big Jim
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                            Cant dissagree with much of that nine.
                            Isco is a super player, City were after him when Pellergrini first joined us as he managed him at Malaga I think??. Just out of interest How do you know all that stuff about him staying with Morata nine??

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                            #10430
                            nine nine nine
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                              Jim, both Isco and Morata have tweeted loads of pics of their time together over the last few days on Facebook and it’s been picked up by the press. Visits to Camden Market etc.

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                              #10431
                              nine nine nine
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                                From today’s Independent “Eden Hazard has had initial talks with Chelsea about a new contract, although no formal offer is expected for some time, and there is a “relaxation” on all sides despite his father’s comments about rejecting an extension early on Friday.

                                Thierry Hazard had told Belgian paper Le Soir that the 26-year-old had turned down an offer because he wants to eventually go to Real Madrid. The Independent has been told that no offer has yet been made and while Hazard is obviously tempted by the Bernabeu, the situation isn’t quite so clean cut.

                                Hazard would clearly be open to an offer, but it is understand he would be most engaged by the opportunity to work with one of his heroes in Zinedine Zidane, above even playing for Real. Since his current deal runs until 2020, and there is already so much uncertainty about Zidane’s medium-term future despite winning successive Champions Leagues, the Belgian and his camp are aware not to get too attached to such an idea. They are also conscious of the fact that – as with goalkeeper Thibaut Courtois – Real have made their interest known on repeated occasions in the past, only to then pursue other targets with much more vigour.”

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                                #10432
                                Big Jim
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                                  Ah, should have guessed. I don’t do social media So wouldn t have seen any really.

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                                  #10433
                                  nine nine nine
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                                    Jim, me neither mate but the press picked it up and wrote a story on it with loads of pics. Apparently Isco and Morata are very close having grown up together playing for the Spanish national team through all the ages. Cheers 999

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                                    #10434
                                    nine nine nine
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                                      ….frightening to think that City could have had Isco too.?

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                                      #10436
                                      Big Jim
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                                        Out of all the press links we had a few years ago that one has more substance imo. Shame it didnt come off at the time.

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                                        #10437
                                        Chelsea.man
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                                          I would rather have Isco over Asensio. i’m a massive fan of Isco and would be delighted if to have him at Chelsea. whether we keep Hazard or not. i would love to have Isco at Chelsea. if we lose Hazard and get Isco, then he should be given the no 10 shirt.

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                                          #10442
                                          maverick1973
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                                            CHM-From this current Real Madrid team only Isco,Kovacic and Assensio I would take,not even Kroos,Carvajal or Marcelo.As 999 said it,the entire team is very,very old,past their best,and basically a waste of space.Modric,CR7,Benzema,Marcelo,Ramos,Navas, are way,way past their best,with Bale and Varane so injury-prone is strange they are still playing.Make no mistake,any team going for these players,will be screwed.

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