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  • #165927
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      442, I think it was Sean who made note of Silva’s experience being incredibly valuable for the likes of Tomori. I don’t know much about him but he’s pretty highly regarded and came from a team who nearly won the CL, so I imagine he’ll be valuable. Sometimes a solid player added to a defence can improve them all, a bit like Van Dijk for us. Either Gomez or Matip will play to a higher level next to Van Dijk than they would with say Lovren. You may see more from whoever Lampard decides to keep in there. Hopefully not too much though because you’re the new Real Madrid further up the pitch 😛

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      #165938
      nine nine nine
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        First thoughts from Frank on Havertz.

        “Kai is a really exciting signing for myself and for the club first and foremost. He is a player I have been aware of for a long time and as a fellow attacking midfield player, I have paid particular attention to those type of players for some time.

        “I was aware of his talent and in conjunction with the club, we know how we want to go forward and look to improve in the right areas, and for players who are going to be here hopefully to improve and mature, but are already at a very high level, he absolutely fitted the bill for us, so I am delighted to have him.”

        Goal scoring ability? Check. Playmaking ability? Check. Runs inside the box? Check. No wonder Havertz draws relentless comparisons to Lampard, the greatest goalscoring midfielder ever seen in the Premier League. Lampard acknowledges the comparisons but also highlights some minor differences in their respective skillset.

        “It is very easy to make those comparisons. I know he is hungry to score goals and make assists so I have already had those conversations with him, but I do think we are quite different in our styles.

        “Kai can probably start in more forward areas than I started in. I liked to come from deep as a midfield player, and a lot of Kai’s really good play in the last few seasons as he has broken through at Leverkusen has been in a slightly advanced no.10 role, or slightly wider areas or more in a striker kind of area of late.”

        Havertz is often described as a player with practically limitless potential — “generational talent” — to go with a stable head and the will to improve every day in training. Those traits would be selling points for any coach, let alone Lampard who himself showed similar qualities during his playing days.

        “On his personality, I have been absolutely overwhelmed with how humble and down to earth he is, and how well he wants to do here, and how he is very excited with the challenge. He wants to come here and be a top player for Chelsea, and really prove his talents on this stage.

        “That to me has been one of the most exciting things, not just to be excited about him arriving as a top talent, but to see his mentality as he has come in. That gives a really good feeling about how his career is going to be at Chelsea.”

        Chelsea’s attacking signings all have one thing in common, versatility. Werner can play as a center forward as well as on the flanks. Ziyech can play out wide and also occupy central areas behind the striker. But Havertz one-ups them both, since he can play as a striker, winger and can even occupy deeper positions without much drop in quality.

        Lampard is looking forward to utilizing this versatility as a tactical weapon, also tryng to keep expectations in check. After all, Havertz is still just 21, arriving in a new country, and with a humongous price tag. He is likely to be closely scrutinized in the most watched league in the world.

        “The versatility is something we will certainly use. It is refreshing as a manager when you have a player come in who can play in different positions and also wants to play in different positions.

        “He has great talent on the ball, his productivity is brilliant in terms of goalscoring and assists , and physically he is great in terms of how he can get around the pitch, and talking about his size we are comparing him to Michael Ballack. All those things come together but I emphasise we do need to give him time, but I am really excited about what he can do.”

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        #165939
        Anonymous

          Mak, it’s not the signing i was expecting, but, if silva can head a ball and teach rudiger and Christiensen, zouma and Tomori to do the same then half the battle could be won. It sort of reminds me of Laurent Blancs move to the prem with united. We will get undone with pacey sides but if we can turn last seasons defeats into draws or wins, we’ll probably improve. And of course, he’s wearing the blue and will want to prove himself so here’s to hoping.

          999… Havertz is the top signing this summer, really excited to have got him. Would we if Lampard hadnt had his youth revolution last season? Probably not, brave decision by the club to appoint him, his standing in the game has probably brought Werner and him to the club. Wonder if we’ll be like Newcastle under Keegan this season. Guaranteed entertainment at the bridge.

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          #165940
          sean the sailor
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            Looks like tomori is going to Everton in Moab to further his development. Excellent prospect but I think he could learn so much off silva. He would be my third choice centre bsck

            Rudiger and silva 1st choice. Rudiger is a solid defender and had a bad time with injuries last season

            A fully fit Kante makes a huge difference

            You have to say Chelsea are rock solid all through the team.

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            #165956
            Anonymous

              Ya, that attack will mean the defence only have to be fairly good, to win most games.

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              #165960
              nine nine nine
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                I smell a few 5-4 games in Chelsea’s favour next season.😊

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                #165977
                nine nine nine
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                  Chelsea are in talks for Declan #Rice. #Blues are ready to offer €45M to #WestHan to sign the midfielder. If two clubs reach an agreement, Rice will sign 5-year contract. #transfers #CFC #WHUFC
                  9:36 AM · Sep 11, 2020 Nicola Schira

                  Schira is often a good source.

                  “Bring him home”😊

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                  #165978
                  Anonymous

                    Chelsea are in talks for Declan Rice. ready to offer €45M to West Ham to sign the midfielder. If BTG the two clubs reach an agreement, Rice will sign 5-year contract.

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                    #165980
                    Anonymous

                      There is lots of hypocrisy to this Chelsea summer spending. and everyone is taking a swipe at Chelsea for strengthening the squad. even though those who are taking the swipe have also spent a similar amount to turn their team into title contenders. when they spend, it’s squad strengthening funded by player sales, but when Chelsea do, it’s been funded by Oligarch even though the two processes are the same.

                      I came to realise, there is one rule of City and Chelsea and another rule for the other clubs. don’t care whatever they believe about Chelsea, but I have to say the level of hypocrisy in this is insane. Chelsea sold Hazard for £88m + £32m bonuses that were already met and are due for payment, Morata for £16m loan fee + £48 transfer, Luiz for £8m, Pallasic for £16m. and things have not stopped there. Chelsea has been the second-largest earners from CL £72m for English clubs, only outdone by City. if any I believe Chelsea have underspent this summer transfer.

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                      #165984
                      sean the sailor
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                        Not sure I’ve seen it young blue. Not in here in anyway mate. Any logical fan knows Chelsea have money to spend from the sales of players. No problem with it at all

                        Chelsea are abiding by the rules. Good luck to them

                        Never had a problem with city or Chelsea’s spending. Two well supported clubs who have had their share of issues over the years by been relegated etc. No problem with how either club have spent money.enjoy the new signings. It’s always very exciting when you know their money to be spent

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                        #165986
                        nine nine nine
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                          Young blue, I like Jürgen Klopp and have a lot of respect for him but he was off beam with his comments on this one as one of the lead articles on TT point out.

                          Liverpool won the CL and the PL thanks in no small part by strengthening via the signings of Alisson,Van Dijk and Fabinho funded primarily by the Coutinho money and Chelsea are utilising the same strategy to make themselves more competitive funded by the sales of the likes of Hazard and Morata etc.

                          Last Summer we couldn’t spend any money because of the transfer ban and we had to sit on the money this Summer we are in the unique position of having plenty of money via the previous sales to spend when other Clubs have limited funds which we’re taking advantage of.

                          So this time talk of Ogliarch’s and state funded spending by City is way off the mark by Klopp as Chelsea are spending transfer monies received and City’s transfer spend to date has primatily been funded by the Sane sale.

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                          #165987
                          nine nine nine
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                            “Chelsea have been closing in on the signing of Édouard Mendy all week, and things now look to be entering a decisive phase.

                            L’Equipe report the goalkeeper hasn’t trained with Rennes on Friday morning, with the insinuation being it’s very much transfer related. He’s been at the club’s base, accompanied by his agent, and left without taking part in the group session ahead of the match against Nimes.

                            According to the French newspaper, negotiations became ‘stuck’ on Thursday. L’Equipe believe Chelsea have been offering around €20m, whereas Rennes have been aiming for €30m.

                            That asking price is higher than has been suggested previously, so is likely flexible. Another issue for Rennes is their search for a successor, and needing to secure an option before they let Mendy leave.

                            L’Equipe hint negotiations with Chelsea must have taken a step forward on Friday morning, which would explain Mendy not training, and him leaving the Rennes base with his agent.” ???

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                            #165990
                            nine nine nine
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                              “The other day Jurgen [Klopp] was saying that Liverpool is not a club of oligarchs and countries. We are the same.”

                              Ha, ha Mourinho is at it now too.🤣🤣🤣

                              Poacher turned gamekeeper!😊

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                              #165991
                              nine nine nine
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                                I think any deal for Declan Rice will be dependent on selling Jorginho. Lets hope Sarri gets fixed up soon.😊

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                                #165993
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                                  Nine

                                  I think this is a well-calculated campaign to discredit Chelsea’s impressive summer transfer business. I’m sure if some other clubs would have done that sort of business the media would have gone into meltdown. I was reading even Berbatov was saying that Chelsea has overpaid Kai Havertz, saying it was ‘ridiculous. only a few days ago, Gary Neville was mocking Chelsea’s transfer business. add that to the number of managers who are gagging up against our transfer business. you will bee wondering have Chelsea spent £1 Billion.

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                                  #165996
                                  Nike19
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                                    I don’t know the full ins and outs and what’s been said by the manager, but I’m sure practically all of us are mature enough to move past this without getting into “they’ve got, they’ve spent”, “is it right”?

                                    That was the nature of TT Well over a decade ago. As Nine rightly says, there was a transfer ban, so the natural pursuit for any Manager is to focus on bringing players to address the playing areas. Arsenal have been focused too on the transfer market.

                                    The one explanation is preciousness which all club fans get because of the possible increase in competition which impacts the levels of threat.

                                    We know from our point of view defending the title will be a lot tougher this year, and more points both from Man City and Liverpool will be dropped and the gap narrowed.

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                                    #165997
                                    threeps
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                                      Nine , I believe Klopps comment was in relation to your spending during the current pandemic and that you and City can spend lots and still know you have incredible financial backing. And not just on players either, also infrastructure and staff. Liverpool have not got this luxury and are feeling the effects after spending loads on updating training facilities and player contracts just before this situation hit. If we spent like you and the pandemic carries on for another year or two we like many others would go under, you won’t thanks to Abramovich. You can spend without fear. Many teams including Liverpool and Spurs are genuinely struggling at the moment.

                                      I’m pretty sure he knows the influence the Alison and VvD transfers had on our fortunes and how they came about.

                                      In fairness it was probably a remark he shouldn’t have made but Teamtalk at its most trashiness turned into a sensational attack that sounded worse than it should.

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                                      #166001
                                      nine nine nine
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                                        threeps, Klopp’s remarks were widely reported in the media word for word over before the TT article came about which in fairness primarily explains how Chelsea can currently spend when others can’t.

                                        Chelsea are in a unique situation because of the monies received from player sales which couldn’t be reinvested last Summer due to the transfer ban.

                                        As you say it was probably best unsaid.I totally agree with Nil’s sentiments in his post above.

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                                        #166002
                                        nine nine nine
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                                          “Chelsea have had their latest bid for Edouard Mendy accepted and the Rennes goalkeeper is ready to fly to London for a medical. The Blues have stepped up their approach for the 28-year-old this week after deciding that Mendy was the man they wanted to bring in to rival Kepa Arrizabalaga and Willy Caballero.”

                                          Great news if accurate it’s an area that desperately needed strengthening and seemingly big Pete thinks Mendy is the right man to do that.

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                                          #166003
                                          threeps
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                                            Its naive to think your spending is solely down to player sales. Normally I’d agree but these are unprecedented and unpredictable financial times for all clubs. We are looking at the prospect of going a full season with no or heavily reduced crowds plus huge playbacks to tv companies. The only clubs that can confidently spend are the ones backed by very wealthy owners, the point I think Klopp was trying to make.

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