8th November 2019 at 10:15 am #52090AnonymousInactive366 pts
Ferguson has to be the best English league manager of all time, surely. Its tough to go beyond that but also, you’ve got to consider more than the sum of their titles. Some achievements are just more impressive than others.
Ferguson’s last PL title was walked with an average team. Wengers invincible season. Peps 101 points tally. These are the most impressive to me, off the top of my head.
I don’t think we can call Pep the best of all time until we see him take a non-giant to a title but he’s definitely in the conversation.
His 101 Man City team was the best ever English team though.8th November 2019 at 10:38 am #52095Chucky McChuckfaceParticipant517 pts
Cloughie’s Division II, Division I, Euro Cup, retain Euro Cup in four successive seasons has to be right up there with the best of them in my humble opinion.
8th November 2019 at 11:31 am #52099MoosParticipant35 pts
- This reply was modified 7 months ago by Chucky McChuckface.
When Ferguson was winning titles he had very little competition compared to today, City, Chelsea wre not super power clubs and Liverpool was in free fall for many years after the 80s, Arsenal were his only competition initially and after Wenger ruined them Chelsea. If Ferguson were in charge today he probably would do much better than Solskjaer but Pep and whoever the manager is at Chelsea would be winning just as much probably more. Through in also the occasional upstarts. Yes he was in a much more comfortable environment than we have now.
8th November 2019 at 12:48 pm #52105Chucky McChuckfaceParticipant517 pts
- This reply was modified 7 months ago by Moos.
You can only beat what’s in front of you Moos, cyber chum!
And using your suggestion about competition being a relevant element, them you have to say Dilly-Dongs title with the Foxy Ladies has to be the best ever Prem Team as they managed to beat ALL the so-called TOP 6!8th November 2019 at 12:54 pm #52106PaganParticipant371 pts
“Ferguson has to be the best English league manager of all time, surely. Its tough to go beyond that but also, you’ve got to consider more than the sum of their titles. Some achievements are just more impressive than others.”
I thought he was Scottish ???
Sorry, know what mean but couldn’t resist that….Pagan9th November 2019 at 7:14 am #52140AnonymousInactive366 pts
Reread that Pagan, I said “English league”, because we’re talking all time.
Its true though, his rivals back then were fewer and generally weaker than today but he won so much.
I never like rating best by most numerous successes. To win even one league in incredible style like citys 101 and actually watching them…. i knew they were the best tean that id ever seen.
Liverpool didnt win it but 1ost only 1 with the 3rd highesr ever points tells me they are up there too. Hopefully we can solidify that this time.9th November 2019 at 7:34 am #52141PaganParticipant371 pts
Mak, it was a play on words
Best English, league manager as opposed to Best manager in the English Leagues
?……Pagan15th November 2019 at 8:05 am #52886nine nine nineModerator915 pts
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