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  • #196063
    Nike19
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61431507

    Arteta’s feeling the pressure. On paper to be fair Spurs’ last 2 games look easier. Norwich already relegated. Burnley aren’t going to win at Spurs.

    Where as Newcastle and Everton look tougher. They have a point advantage, but they really need to give it their all at Newcastle which they are capable of doing so.

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    #196064
    Nike19
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    Looking at the table and sort of thinking about an overall assessment of the season, I must say I am impressed with both Spurs and Gunners stepping up and showing signs of improvement. Of course there is room for improvement, but above all, it fills me with positivity and hope that this league isn’t just about 2 or 3 teams.

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    #196158
    Mikus LFC
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    Arsenal under Wenger: fed up of just qualifying for the CL.
    Arsenal post Wenger: fed up of not being able to qualify for the CL.

    Yet another example of fans wanting a manager out only to realise the problem lies further upstairs?

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    #196160
    FoxyFoxes
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    …and each manager after was worse than their predecessor

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    #196161
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    Yep. Arsenal are massive bottlers under Arteta. I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve heard pundits defending him with things like “but you can at least see what he’s trying to do”.

    They spent more than anyone last summer and have somehow lost more games than the worst Utd side in living memory. Crazy that merely sitting next to Pep for a couple of years isn’t enough to manage such a big club!

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    #196163
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    Think they are hampered by the type of players they’ve bought in though. They should still have bought in some quality rather than seeming to be obsessed by youth and potential. Though I agree the team still lacks guts and the players seem more concerned with following instructions than fighting.

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    #196164
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    Arsenal were surprisingly poor.
    Nike there have always been just two or three teams challenging. It’s the same in every league.

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    #196165
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    Being a number two to a top manager, learning everything doesn’t always translate to success.
    I can learn a joke off by heart but when I tell it , it doesn’t work as well as a comedian.

    Maybe it will take Arteta time to be Arteta and not Pep mark 2

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    #196167
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    Liverpool will win this and so to the final day.
    Simple. If we win we will be champions. If we don’t it will be Liverpool. How are the nerves!!

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    #196168
    Mikus LFC
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    Villa just aren’ that great at the back Adlab. So not much hope from me.

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    #196169
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    Thought we weren’t bad tonight considering all the changes. Bobby still important up top in creating chances. Salah has irritated me recently constantly going for shots or losing the ball too easily, thinking of his own record I suspect.

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    #196170
    Nike19
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    Feel so proud we’ve taken the race this far. At one point I would have suspected the bookies were paying out for a Man City Title win.

    Those points clawed back and to keep it to just one point. Essentially, it’ll be a lottery. If we lose out giving it our all, you can’t be too disappointed.

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    #196171
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    I’ve always believed being an Ast Manager means sod all. Too often they are tasked with only one aspect of the job, tactics, training or man-management, rarely all aspects and so when they makes those transitions from Ast Manager to full time manager it rarely goes well. I mean how many Ast Managers did Fergie have work under him and go on to be successful mamagers in their own right?
    I actually think you’re better off earning your stripes as a youth team manager as you will more likely have to perform all the duties you are expected to from senior football in a lesser format

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    #196175
    Mikus LFC
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    Foxy, it would be interesting if someone did research into how many former assistant managers went on to become successful managers in the modern era. I suspect it wouldn’t be a big number. You just suspect assistant managers want to have a go at being a manager having been in someone’s shadow for a long time but as you say, it is a different job altogether requiring a much greater skillset and more often than not, it ends in tears. You have to be a figure of authority – and after previously being an assistant who can get very close and pally with the players, that can prove very difficult to transition to. And with players being ever more powerful, it makes them more difficult to manage, so that task becomes even harder.

    Indeed in this list made here, you could only say Mourinho & Paisley became top managers after previously being assistants, and both are arguably from a different era now.

    https://www.90min.com/posts/6047850-8-assistants-who-went-on-to-become-successful-managers-in-their-own-right

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    #196176
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    As for Arteta, you can sense that lack of authority what with the lack of discipline on the pitch. And as for Aubameyang, whilst on the surface it seems he was right to offload a player he didn’t deem to be giving his all (according to reports), was it not maybe the case that Arteta just didn’t get the best out of him so he didn’t deliver? And Aubameyang was one of very few quality players Arsenal have – i.e. one player Arteta couldn’t really afford to lose. Meanwhile he’s now banging them in for Barca scoring 11 in 16.

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    #196177
    Nike19
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    I thought Brian Kidd and Alex Ferguson worked really well back in the 90s. Pep Ljinders and Jurgen Klopp seem have worked well, but this is the thing; they’re better in presence of each other.

    That’s a good point Foxy. I don’t often see the Assistant Manager in our game comfortable in control of the reigns and essentially taking care of everything frontline from facing the media to picking the team and handling the dressing room, plus injuries, suspensions and having the input and power on Transfers.

    What is the Template for the Assistant Manager if he is wanting to go on to another level and progress as a Manager? Does he need to undergo training? Does he just get more involved hands-on? What about in the absence of the Club Manager?

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