Home Community General Football Week 22: Let the fun and games begin…

Viewing 20 posts - 41 through 60 (of 192 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #203696
    sean the sailor
    Participant

      Our fans are quick enough to forget were we were before Klopp came in. 3 cl finals and 3 90 point finishes in 5 years. Be very careful what you wish for

      I want see Klopp still here next summer even if we finish 17th

      _____________________________

      React below πŸ‘‡

      *hover/click on the number below the reaction to see who reacted

      Loading spinner
      #203697
      threeps
      Participant

        I have read but it was only someone’s opinion that Klopp is slowly handing over responsibilities to other staff members as he winds down to retirement. Training to Ljinders, recruitment to the scouting team etc. You know he has always said he will stop when his wife tells him the stress is too much maybe this was a compromise for extending his contract. This isn’t a Klopp team anymore, he needs to take back control.

        _____________________________

        React below πŸ‘‡

        *hover/click on the number below the reaction to see who reacted

        Loading spinner
        #203698
        Adlab
        Participant

          Threeps. I think you might be right. He’s always so stressed shouting at everyone. Bit of calm needed and forget the 4th official

          _____________________________

          React below πŸ‘‡

          *hover/click on the number below the reaction to see who reacted

          Loading spinner
          #203699
          Luckydestiny
          Participant

            That sounds reasonable threeps.

            He done wonders even getting one title vs pep and city and so close to more. Last season must have been exhausting even for you as fans going the distance in every comp, can only imagine how exhausting it would have been for klopp and his old guard of players.

            For me it should be a case of letting klopp decide if he still wants it and if he really does then he should be backed. He may leave but if he does it probably should and will be of his own choice.

            _____________________________

            React below πŸ‘‡

            *hover/click on the number below the reaction to see who reacted

            Loading spinner
            #203700
            sean the sailor
            Participant

              Exactjy lucky if he wants to stay then the supporters need to get behind him no matter what happens this season

              _____________________________

              React below πŸ‘‡

              *hover/click on the number below the reaction to see who reacted

              Loading spinner
              #203701
              Mikus LFC
              Participant

                Sean, do you think it’s realistic we can maintain this path and form until May? And what’s going to change in the summer with transfers with no CL? If Klopp is having more influence on signings then as I said, that’s only adding the pressure on to him what with big bucks recently spent on Gakpo and Nunez. It just looks to me like the party’s over because all the while the pressure only adds to him and inevitably relationships with some players will get fraught and we can’t just change the players and keep the manager. That’s not how clubs operate.

                _____________________________

                React below πŸ‘‡

                *hover/click on the number below the reaction to see who reacted

                Loading spinner
                #203702
                sean the sailor
                Participant

                  Utd attracted players with cl football and I believe we can aswell. I remember people writing City off after finishing 2nd one season!

                  If he’s not supported in the summer he should walk. I’m hoping vvd, Bobby, jota and Diaz coming back might improve us until the end of the summer

                  So who do you want to replace Klopp?I think he fully deserves a lot more time after what he’s achieved. Very disappointing fans turning on the manager after a bad spell

                  _____________________________

                  React below πŸ‘‡

                  *hover/click on the number below the reaction to see who reacted

                  Loading spinner
                  #203704
                  Adlab
                  Participant

                    Sean. Fans are fickle. Klopp needs a rethink for the second half of the season. Nothing that a couple of wins won’t put right.
                    I said this before,,,some teams have been affected more than others by the World Cup. We haven’t been great either.

                    _____________________________

                    React below πŸ‘‡

                    *hover/click on the number below the reaction to see who reacted

                    Loading spinner
                    #203705
                    nine nine nine
                    Moderator

                      You’re so predictable Adlab.πŸ˜ƒ

                      _____________________________

                      React below πŸ‘‡

                      *hover/click on the number below the reaction to see who reacted

                      Loading spinner
                      #203706
                      nine nine nine
                      Moderator

                        Without Klopp can begin to turn things around I think he could walk. He can’t be enjoying this.

                        _____________________________

                        React below πŸ‘‡

                        *hover/click on the number below the reaction to see who reacted

                        Loading spinner
                        #203707
                        sean the sailor
                        Participant

                          I’ve defended nunez but he had to score there. Terrible finishing. Ill support the manager and players who brought us the best times in decades. It’s so bad my fear is the owners will sack Klopp. If he walks then it’s embarrassing for him as it’s proves his teams only have a 7 year life span.

                          We need to rebuild etc and I hope Klopp is supported and our fans stick with him. I’ve absolutely no doubt the anfield crowd will.

                          _____________________________

                          React below πŸ‘‡

                          *hover/click on the number below the reaction to see who reacted

                          Loading spinner
                          #203708
                          D1rtyH4rry
                          Participant

                            Sean – Klopp isn’t a victim here. He keeps insisting on a broken formation that doesn’t work anymore. He needs to take the lions share for how we’re playing at the minute, as its the whole squad turning out, being dire, game after game. At what point do you start holding him accountable? Fans are rightly pissed off with what’s being served up.

                            • This reply was modified 1 year, 1 month ago by D1rtyH4rry.

                            _____________________________

                            React below πŸ‘‡

                            *hover/click on the number below the reaction to see who reacted

                            Loading spinner
                            #203710
                            Mikus LFC
                            Participant

                              I’m not so much turning on the manager Sean, I just think the relationship has perhaps now run its course. Also, the fans are spending large amounts to watch these performances. Even they will start getting fed up. If what Threeps said is true, is Klopp going to want to pick up the reigns again of other departments if he was hoping to wind down a bit? Add to that I don’t think this team can be put right in one season now. I think you’re looking at another 2/3 years. That’s another big job.

                              I also never liked the Salah contract situation last year. I just got the impression the club bent towards him which a club should never do. Just reminded me a bit of the Rooney Man Utd situation which I thought was similar. And then they go and blow all that money on Nunez. Imo, it was all the sign of a club in decline.

                              _____________________________

                              React below πŸ‘‡

                              *hover/click on the number below the reaction to see who reacted

                              Loading spinner
                              #203711
                              Adlab
                              Participant

                                Nine…Predictable? Maybe but possibly correct πŸ€” πŸ˜• πŸ˜€ 😏

                                _____________________________

                                React below πŸ‘‡

                                *hover/click on the number below the reaction to see who reacted

                                Loading spinner
                                #203712
                                sean the sailor
                                Participant

                                  Harry, no mate. Certainly Klopp is not blameless. Bizarre subs etc. having a tactical nightmare but I believe he can turn it around with a few new players and players returning from injury. We have got worse at the back without vvd

                                  Matip and Gomez are a shambles at the minute

                                  But what’s decline mikuis? Decline to me is finishing 7th every season and going absolutely no were. Getting ripped off by gillet etc and nearly going into administration. Roy hodgson etc. those were worrying times. We were told we were in decline in 2021 losing 6 home games in a row then finished one point off winning the league the following season.It’s one season. Ok if this continues into next ten matches next season then yes I’d be concerned

                                  _____________________________

                                  React below πŸ‘‡

                                  *hover/click on the number below the reaction to see who reacted

                                  Loading spinner
                                  #203714
                                  Mikus LFC
                                  Participant

                                    What makes you think things will turnaround in the next 10 games Sean? We thought we’d turned around in the Wolves FA Cup game. That didn’t last very long.

                                    _____________________________

                                    React below πŸ‘‡

                                    *hover/click on the number below the reaction to see who reacted

                                    Loading spinner
                                    #203715
                                    sean the sailor
                                    Participant

                                      I’ve said this season is a write off mikuis. That’s why I keep saying one bad season and I’ve said what I think we need to do in the summer

                                      Maybe in next ten games we get vvd , Diaz, jota and bobby back and we might see a difference. As the current front 3 are fling nothing. Matip is absolutely dreadful and so is Gomez. Get konate back beside vvd.

                                      _____________________________

                                      React below πŸ‘‡

                                      *hover/click on the number below the reaction to see who reacted

                                      Loading spinner
                                      #203716
                                      Editor
                                      Keymaster

                                        Nothing about whether the red card call was correct Adlab?! πŸ˜„. I’ve never known a rival team’s fan be so engrossed in decisions in Utd games πŸ˜„. For the record, that’s the second pen we’ve had in the league all season, less than all our rivals. We’ve been due a pen for weeks.

                                        In fairness Casemiro deserved his red but a Palace player did exactly the same and got nothing.

                                        _____________________________

                                        React below πŸ‘‡

                                        *hover/click on the number below the reaction to see who reacted

                                        Loading spinner
                                        #203717
                                        threeps
                                        Participant

                                          There’s many opinions as to why things are so bad this season. It’s Klopps fault, it’s FSGs fault, it’s Mo Salahs contract fault, it’s an aging squad fault, its a crippling injury lists fault. Whilst these all might have an impact (not Mo’s contract mind!) my opinion is the biggest impact to a teams performance is what happens on the training pitch. You can point at individual performances or mistakes but ask why these are happening? If you concede good quality chances time and again as a defender you will start making more errors. If you are a striker operating on poor chances your confidence will be effected and your performance decline.

                                          So I’m now firmly sticking my flag in the Klopp has given control to others as part of an agreement during his contract renewal as he winds down idea.

                                          The way to fix it is Klopp to take back control, demote or even fire those doing the coaching and recruiting tactical misfits like Nunez and Gakpo. Get back to the high intensity, chocking of the opposition and lightning quick counters. At the end of the season remove those that are tactically not suited to a Klopp team, Thiago and Matip for wxample. Find a role in such a team for the likes of Carvalho and Elliot or move them on despite how high their ceiling might be. Get back the Klopp identity on the team.

                                          The question is if Klopp has it in him to do so? Stress and his and his family welfare are closely connected. If he hasn’t got it in him to build again in his own image then maybe it is time to find someone who will. Just not Pep Ljinders!

                                          _____________________________

                                          React below πŸ‘‡

                                          *hover/click on the number below the reaction to see who reacted

                                          Loading spinner
                                          #203718
                                          Mikus LFC
                                          Participant

                                            Sean, I think where we’ll agree is Klopp has been let down by the current recruitment team which has added this pressure on to him. However, over last summer he insisted we didn’t need another midfielder, before later admitting he was wrong. Now OK, weve also been poor at the back, but also remember it was the chemistry of that original front 3 that really gave us a fear factor up top and kept opposing teams back. But weve lost that and not replaced it well enough and Klopp seems to have struggled to find another way of playing. And the problem for Klopp is that the role of a manager is to get the best out of what he has. Whether completely fair or not, he isn’t currently doing that with the way we are losing games. And even with a few players returning, not sure I see us improving that much.

                                            _____________________________

                                            React below πŸ‘‡

                                            *hover/click on the number below the reaction to see who reacted

                                            Loading spinner
                                          Viewing 20 posts - 41 through 60 (of 192 total)
                                          • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.