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  • #221278
    happyhurling
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      Great result for Chelsea last night. Who knew that when a club is allowed to spend a billion pounds a year they actually put together a pretty good team? A truly remarkable Fairytale story of the underdog.

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      #221279
      Rover
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        Petty cash, like United most of the players they brought in are 2nd rate lower league quality if that.

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        #221286
        happyhurling
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          Good one!

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          #221293
          Ed de Goey
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            Happy – things are simpler when a team can offload Mount onto a certain other club for $$$

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            #221413
            aindro
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              Well I disagree about Mount. For me he was the closest central midfielder at Chelsea to Frank Lampard. I wanted him to stay to take the no:10 shirt but he left. And he simply was unlucky with injuries. I think Man Utd fans will see how good he is next season as he seems to have recovered from his injuries. But yeah with the amount of money that Chelsea spend, they need to sell.

              And I also disagree about Chelsea team. We are decent, for sure, finished in the top 4, won the Conference League and now in the final of CWC. Pochettino, Maresca and the players have done quite well. But we are still very far from the top 3 Premier League Liverpool Arsenal and Man City. And with our transfer policy young players only: I don’t believe we will be anywhere near no:1 or no:2 next season.

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              #221422
              happyhurling
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                Aindro – At the very least its exciting! Not entirely convinced by Maresca but there’s certainly not a dull moment at Chelsea these days. Although i did have to laugh when i saw that you want ยฃ100m for Jackson!! ๐Ÿ™‚

                Hope you’re right about Mount. Seems like a good lad and we’ve seen glimpses of quality but can’t stay fit for more than a month for the last 2 years. So frustrating.

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                #221427
                Jm 1502
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                  Fucking amazing how Wirtz, Frimpong, Ait Nouri, Kerkez, Elanga, Gittens, Reijnders, Cherki, Zubimendi, Delap, Joao Pedro, Norgaard all get done within fucking days. And whatโ€™s the betting the Arse will bag Madueke, Gyokeres and possibly Eze before we close the Mbeumo deal?

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                  #221428
                  englishbob
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                    JM – it’s almost like united are run by people that dont realise the importance of a full pre-season

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                    #221429
                    happyhurling
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                      Those clubs don’t have any financial restrictions though do they?

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                      #221430
                      Jm 1502
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                        Well why the fuck do we have? And if we canโ€™t stump up another couple of million, why the fuck are we hanging around? May as well pull out and go for someone cheaper. But you know what, everyone knows itโ€™s only a matter of time before we cough up, we always do, so why not just do it and move on – or move away?

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                        #221431
                        Wise-fan
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                          Assuming this discussion is genuine and not intended to belittle Chelsea fans or stem from jealousy, I would argue that spending money is one thing, while achieving desired results is another. Many clubs are investing heavily these days, but only a few are making wise investments. Chelsea, in particular, is often seen as a benchmark for overspending. While thereโ€™s some truth to this view, itโ€™s important to recognize that football has increasingly become a business; generally, the more you spend, the greater the potential rewards.

                          Since Sir Alex Ferguson’s retirement from Manchester United, there have been more misses than hits in player acquisitions. The club has spent over a billion on players that Ferguson would likely not have considered, yet the team is far from the level expected of the biggest club in England. In contrast, I see Liverpool as an example of a well-run club; they consistently make smart investments and compete every year. Perhaps Chelsea’s ownership aims to reach that level of success.

                          When examining player sales over the last decade, Chelsea ranks at the top, while United is at the bottom. Chelsea has sold numerous players while spending a billion, and people often focus solely on that expenditure. However, itโ€™s important to note that Chelsea has generated nearly 800 million from player sales since the new ownership took over. On the other hand, I canโ€™t recall many players from United who were sold for a profit in the last decade, with Romelu Lukaku being a notable exception. Most have been offloaded at a loss.

                          Iโ€™m not suggesting that Chelseaโ€™s new ownership is perfect, as Roman Abramovich was for the club, but they do have a clear plan. They have introduced financial discipline, reduced the wage bill, signed young and ambitious players, and appointed a promising young coach. These actions reflect thoughtful planning rather than mere spending. If Chelsea were to breach the Premier League’s Profitability and Sustainability regulations or Financial Fair Play rules, they would likely face sanctions from UEFA, FIFA, or the Premier League. However, the current Chelsea owners are navigating the existing loopholes effectively, which is a savvy approach.

                          In contrast, Manchester United’s ownership appears to be selling shares without a clear plan for the club’s future. Ferguson’s remarkable work once masked the underlying issues, but now that he’s gone, the ownership’s shortcomings are becoming evident.

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                          #221432
                          Jm 1502
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                            There is only happyhurling and you Chelsea fans talking about Chelsea on here pal. And by the way, your club forum starts with a C. So if you donโ€™t like what youโ€™re reading, I suggest you fuck off back there.

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                            #221433
                            Wise-fan
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                              Great result for Chelsea last night. Who knew that when a club is allowed to spend a billion pounds a year they actually put together a pretty good team? A truly remarkable Fairytale story of the underdog. this doesn’t sound a United discussion if i may remind you?

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                              #221434
                              Rover
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                                I see Onana has injured himself for 8 weeks so he doesn’t have to move from United, clever guy, worth the pain

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                                #221435
                                Jm 1502
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                                  Yeah Wise-fan, although how anyone can associate themselves with that horrible little cunt Dennis Wise is beyond me, as I said, itโ€™s happyhurling. Heโ€™s always talking about other clubs. Enjoy!

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                                  #221438
                                  thedevil
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                                    For all the players they signed, I still dont think Chelsea are anywhere near challenging for the title. They spent more than ยฃ220m on just two midfielders but I wouldnt even rank their midfield as the best in the league. Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool and City have all spent over ยฃ100m on a single player.

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                                    #221440
                                    Rover
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                                      I kinda agree devil. Those guys are self made billionaires, you would think they know how to do spend money wisely. They bought a lot of rubbish with some good ones. Still they have had some reasonable success. Not in the same class as City or Liverpool though.

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                                      #221451
                                      happyhurling
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                                        This thread was set up in the Man Utd forum for United fans to discuss “Rivals” as we had a similar page previously. But fans from other sites do normally jump in with comments from time to time.

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                                        #221453
                                        Rover
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                                          That’s why I agree with whoever it was that suggested have each club on different pages and if its a comment made for all to see then it can be posted on the General page. We also occasionally posting on the wrong forum for another reason.

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                                          #221456
                                          steveosnakeeye
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                                            Oh boohoo get over it
                                            Itโ€™s football and banter read and post where you want and stop being so precious

                                            Sounding like Arsenal fans ๐Ÿ˜‚

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