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  • #112178
    nine nine nine
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      Spurs allegedly offering Aurier as a makeweight for Sandro at Juventus is amusing surely Juve wouldn’t take Aurier who is an accident waiting to happen even if Spurs paid them to do so.?

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      #112184
      maverick1973
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        9s-Some teams are not looking @ the resale value of a player,cos winning trophies is the main ambition.Say Liverpool sign K2 and they go on to dominate the PL for the next 5 years,why would they care that he will be 33 yrs old by then? Imagine Alisson,VVD,K2,in defence,the only way you would hope to score will be 35-yeard worldies.

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        #112238
        nine nine nine
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          True enough Mav but it would be a major departure from Liverpool’s transfer strategy which is handed down by Fenway.

          You can never say never but if Koulibally does leave I wouldn’t put my money on him joining Liverpool based on the above.

          Anyway I thought he was joining Newcastle!?

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          #112254
          nine nine nine
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            Chelsea are in advanced talks with Paris Saint-Germain about the sale to the French side of midfielder Tiemoue Bakayoko, who has spent the season on loan at Monaco (Daily Express)

            If Marina pulls this one off for anything like a decent fee it would be one hell of an achievement.???

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            #112256
            threeps
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              “but it would be a major departure from Liverpool’s transfer strategy which is handed down by Fenway.”

              That was the Fenway way a few years ago but they changed strategy. Purchases of Alisson and VvD for then records proves this. IΒ΄m with Mav on this that 80m or whatever for a world class CB would be justified if they get the results on the pitch and trophies in the cabinet. IΒ΄m sure Liverpool would be happy for VvD to stay another 5 years when he will be 32 with hardly any resale value.

              I actually think K2 is a little overrated. His positioning isn’t that good but he can rely on his superb physical attributes to get him out of trouble. I guess you could say the same about VvD a year or two ago mind.

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              #112257
              maverick1973
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                9s-Bakayoko still alive?Lol.In the current climate caused by Corona,cant see anybody wanting to pay any decent £££ for the likes of him & Michy.But what a waste DrinkH2O has been!

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                #112258
                maverick1973
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                  3ps-K2 is a bit overpriced,not overrated imho.Just imagine him alongside VVD in defence,with Becker behind them.Scary stuff.

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                  #112267
                  nine nine nine
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                    threeps, both Alisson and VVD were record buys but they were a bit younger than Koulibally would be if anyone signs him this Summer.

                    As I said you can never say never but if Koulibally goes and I still think that’s an if and it will depend on what kind of price Napoli want for him but I can’t see anyone paying silly money this summer for anyone .

                    I certainly wouldn’t rate Koulibally to Liverpool in the crazy rumour category though.

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                    #112268
                    nine nine nine
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                      Mav, Marina will get all her magic potions out never discount Marina’s magical ability. πŸ™‚

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                      #112271
                      Chucky McChuckface
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                        If I was a LiVARberoOol fan, I’d be more than happy with getting K2. Let’s be honest, it’s going to be a special type of player to walk into that 1st 11, and a top class play-pal for Dicky Van Dyke is possibly the weakest link in that 1st 11.

                        GK = Name me a better goalie than Alice?
                        FB = Name me a better paring than those two whippersnappers?
                        CB = DVD & K2.. see above….

                        Up Top = Those terrorsome triplets, enough said…

                        You could say individually, the midfielders aren’t top, top draw, but you can’t argue with the way Kloop has them working as a unit…

                        Bastards!

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                        #113520
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                          M<av, this may sound utterly insane to you but I don’t want us to sign Koulibaly. I rate him EXTREMELY high but I also rate Gomez way higher than most. We just don’t need him. he might be the 2nd best CB in the world but the money that he would cost, would take away from other areas where we actually need to spend.

                          I rate Gomez way higher than most others. People have really started going on about how poor he is in the air and it’s not that he doesn’t sometimes get pushed off it.. but it’s way over-sold. Besides that then, he’s absolutely TOP class in every other way. i say play Gomez, let him mature next to Van Dijk and if he is lucky with the injuries, he’ll be a world class CB soon enough. he’s already one of the best in the PL.

                          You don’t spend 60-70m in order to replace one of the best in the league, with one of the best in the world.

                          Go buy Werner!

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                          #113524
                          maverick1973
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                            https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/top-20-premier-league-flops-22100611
                            God almighty,what a waste!

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                            #113531
                            maverick1973
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                              Newcastle ONLY to be allowed Β£200m to spend? Can they buy Kane,Messi,Neymar,Bale,CR7,with that?

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                              #113533
                              nine nine nine
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                                Mav, not sure where you’ve got the Β£200m from that would take Newcastle way beyond FFP and they would fail to qualify for Europe on that basis too assuming that’s what they managed to do.

                                I read a piece from Guim Ballague who suggested Newcastle excluding any revenue raised from player sales would be limited to a circa Β£26m spend???

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                                #113540
                                maverick1973
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                                  9s-Straight from the UEFAs president`s mouth.Β£26m is a joke, even with Covid-19 decimating the transfer fees.And just because Newcastle are not in any European comps they can spend big,but I expected them to be limited to Β£150m-Β£200m,max.

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                                  #113543
                                  nine nine nine
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                                    Mav, I don’t think Ceferin is quoted anywhere saying what Newcastle can spend and the takeover has yet to go through although I suspect it will.

                                    Newcastle’s financial results over the previous 2 years show a circa Β£20m net loss and a net spend in the next transfer window of circa Β£100m spread over 4/5 years of the contracts would be broadly in line with Guim Ballague’s suggestion of what is seemingly achievable.

                                    What Ceferin has said re the relaxation of the FFP rules is in respect of how Cov19 is effecting football Clubs revenues which seems sensible but that’s solely designed to be sympathetic to the losses Clubs have and will suffer because of Cov19 not to fund significant transfer spending.

                                    Allowing Clubs to spend more than they earn in the transfer market is totally alien to FFP and is clearly not in anyway part of UEFA’s current objectives going forwards or the ECA’s.

                                    Rightly or wrongly what Chelsea and City did with their spending pre FFP rules can’t be repeated whilst FFP is in place and there’s no indication that the FFP rules are going anywhere anytime soon.

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                                    #113546
                                    maverick1973
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                                      9s-Not quoted,he did say it,in his native Slovenia,no matter what you or I think.His words: I dont expect Newcastle to spend more than Β£200m.
                                      Any team being taken ove now will break the FFPR until they qualify for Europe,ad we saw it too well how much teams like A.Villa spent last year,for example I fully expect Newcastle to challenge for the title in the next 5 yrs,if the takeover happens

                                      • This reply was modified 3 years, 10 months ago by maverick1973.

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                                      #113548
                                      nine nine nine
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                                        Mav, there’s no way imo that Ceferin would ever comment on what any Club might spend in a transfer window and even if he said something like that in Slovenia it would be widely reported.

                                        Very tough for anyone to come from outside the normal top 6 and challenge Liverpool and City for the title within the next 5 years imo. Tough enough for those in the top 6.?

                                        Time will tell though.

                                        The more the merrier imo I would love to see 4 or 5 teams vying for the title but it can’t be done by significant spending over and above FFP.

                                        Let’s discuss again assuming the takeover goes ahead after the end of the transfer window looking at the players Newcastle buy and how much they actually spend.

                                        A spend of circa Β£100m spread over the life of the contracts is looks definitely achievable.

                                        Players like Cavani on a free and Coutinho on loan are possibilities although their salaries would be prohibitive.

                                        The fact remains that Clubs can’t spend more than they earn now and that applies to everyone.

                                        Villas net spend for 2019/20 according to transfermarkt was circa Β£50m net.

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                                        #113549
                                        Pagan
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                                          9, or they could sell their assets like the stadium and training ground to the new owner and raise funds that way…..Pagan

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                                          #113551
                                          maverick1973
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                                            9s-Yes mate,in your opinion,but he did say it,I heard it myself.I said it a while ago,Newcastle will be spending big and I expect them to be spending Β£100m-Β£150m every transfer window.If the takeover deal goes through,we just have to accpet and get used to them being a superpower.As for challenging for the title,that what it means,namely that they will be challenging,not winning it.He also talked about relaxing the FFPR as a result of the Corona virus,and it has already started with PSG signing Icardi for Β£60m just yesterday.

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