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  • #172315
    Anonymous

      I see, so shiny and Steveo have a problem with me. anyone else? The funny thing is, everyone was getting on yesterday. everything was fine until now so…

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      #172316
      sean the sailor
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        I don’t agree with that stevo mate. Liverpool and city can be got at by taking the game to them. Fulham did it on Sunday , villa have done it etc.

        Jose’s plan nearly worked but nearly never won the race. Bit more positivity and spurs could have done even better as we had 19year making his pl debut and a midfielder playing centre back

        Agree about the posting during the game. Just be chilled and watch the game

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        #172317
        Shiney
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          Steveo , we switched off and Firmino scored a beauty no complaints from me.
          I have a question , do you think Arteta should bring back Ozil he’s probably your most creative player but has obviously fallen out of favour ??

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          #172318
          sean the sailor
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            That’s what I mean shiney. If the game plans works then great but it didn’t in January when spurs played exactly the same way. Have a go as we can be got at as seen many times this season

            Fulham shoujd have been 3-0 up after 30 mins. BRighton had numerous chances againest us and we all know what happened with villa

            High line we play is very risky

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            #172319
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              #172320
              Mikus LFC
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                As I said last night I don’t think Jose feels quite strong enough at Spurs yet to play a bit more boldly in parts. Yes, that’s his general game to defend and play the percentages, but if he just had a bit more trust I think he would have had more of a go, though he was somewhat hampered by the Liverpool press.

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                #172321
                sean the sailor
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                  But mikius I’ve heard that line before mate. That’s the way Jose sets up in big ganes never mind his personal .

                  Fulham, villa, Leeds all had a go at liveroool and caused them huge problems and spurs have a much better team then all of them

                  I used to hear the same about big Sam. Give him better players abd he would play a more expansive game. He never did

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                  #172322
                  Mikus LFC
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                    Not saying he’d be more expansive but think he would have taken more risks here and there. At the end of the day, it almost worked out had one of those chances gone in – no way we’d have come back from 2-1 down to win 3-2.

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                    #172323
                    sean the sailor
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                      Almost worked mate but it almost worked in jan when we won 1-0 aswell but at the end of the day it didn’t.

                      I see what you are saying but I really don’t think his pragmatic style will change away from home no matter what players he has

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                      #172324
                      threeps
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                        There’s more than one way to win a match. Spurs were a post width away from taking the lead, something which could of lead them a win at the home of the reigning champions which hasn’t seen a home defeat for 60 odd games. If they had we would of been overloaded by “another Jose tactical masterclass” in the media. It may not be most enjoyable to watch but it was very nearly executed perfectly. If he came and had a go who knows he may of won, or he may of shipped 4 goals and been humiliated. Hindsight is a wonderful thing when judging performance.

                        Having said all that it does make me smile when a team that time wastes then concedes very late and are now the ones rushing about.

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                        #172325
                        sean the sailor
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                          Ye but threeps he came and played exactly how we knew he would and he lost. Like he did in jan when we won 1-0. That’s the reality. Hindsight it may have been different but other clubs have showed how to really get at us . I don’t care either way as his rant last night makes it all the much sweeter.

                          It was nearly executed but it wasn’t.

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                          #172326
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                            Sean, it’s very difficult to argue with the way he sets up. You can’t, for example, compare his Spurs side to Leeds. Of course Bielsa can turn up and slug out a good, entertaining game (albeit one they lost). Bielsa has never won anything, nor is he expected to win anything. Mourinho’s methods have brought him arguably more success than any other manager over the same period. Mourinho’s job is to win trophies, hence he plays the percentages.

                            This thing about him always having been defensive is just not factual. If it were, he wouldn’t have beaten the greatest club side ever (Barca under Pep) to the league, breaking goals and points records in the process. I believe those records still stand. If that’s not evidence that he plays as expansive as he feels he can with the players he has then I don’t know what is.

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                            #172327
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                              Fulham, villa, Leeds all had a go at liveroool and caused them huge problems and spurs have a much better team then all of them

                              Crucially, Sean, where exactly has that “having a go” mentality got them? Great, they won some plaudits for having a go but they’re all in the bottom half and 2 of them are likely to be battling relegation. Arsenal were great for having a go under Wenger in the latter years. Ask an Arsenal fan if they’d take him back, though (in fact don’t do that right now! But you get the point)

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                              #172328
                              sean the sailor
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                                Ed I totally get that mate but last night Liverpool
                                Had their 4th and 5th choice centre backs. Surprise us and try something different. Everyone knew what was coming last night and his meltdown at full time was hilarious.

                                I keep hearing spurs are genuine challengers but huge opportunity to have a real go . Fulham and villa smashed us apart. I’m talking about one game when Liverpool are extermley vulnerable . Try something different.

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                                #172329
                                sean the sailor
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                                  Again I’m
                                  Talking about one game Ed. Fulham had a go againest us and I’m showing we can be got at. That’s my point.

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                                  #172330
                                  nine nine nine
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                                    I think threeps summed it up very well as has the Ed. Liverpool’s strength is their offensive game and the speed of their counter attacks if any team goes into a game v Liverpool playing open offensive football Liverpool will pick them off.

                                    Jose has Spurs very well organised and despite last night’s result Spurs are still very much in the title race it may not be preety to watch but it is effective and there’s more than one way to skin a Cat and this wasn’t a tactic just to deal with Liverpool this is how Spurs are currently playing tactically and it’s got them to where they are now.

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                                    #172331
                                    maverick1973
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                                      Shiney-My old,cyber friend,Spurs are an excellent team,and this season its not even half way.Your team,playing like they did last night and so far this season,is capable of beating any team home or away.You played the best team in the country,the reigning champs with the best attacking trio in world football,and nearly got a draw,had Bergwijn been a bit more lucky even won it.So,no need to be upset or disappointed with the game,quite the contrary in fact.Barring major injuries to your 1st team players,I fully expect Spurs to take the title race down to the wire.

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                                      #172333
                                      Hightown hope
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                                        ‘Ironic really, that on a night when we mourned a manager of exemplary grace and class, Mourinho came to Anfield and behaved like the very antithesis of the dignity that Gerard Houllier stood for.

                                        Hopefully, we gave him something to smile about up there; we gave Jose something to whinge about, which is almost as satisfying.’ TAW

                                        I thought Spurs were excellent last night, defended really well until minute 92, and looked very dangerous on the counter, and I don’t really get the criticism I’ve read in the papers about their style of play – it can’t have come as a surprise to anyone, it’s been very effective, they were playing the Champions at Anfield, and while I take your point, Sean, that we are fallible, why would Jose change what has been successful all season?

                                        Having said that, he is a graceless twat of the highest order. I know his diatribe at the end was only a means to deflect the fact away that his team got deservedly beaten by a team that was missing VVD, Gomez, Thiago, Jota and Matip, at least 3 of whom would have been definite starters, and a team with a young centre back making his PL debut against one of the best attacks currently around in Europe, and a young midfielder making maybe his 15th appearance for the club.

                                        A big statement of a result, but make no mistake, it’s not the last we’ll see of Spurs this season. Certainly top 4, unless Jose loses it spectacularly, which always could happen, along with City and Chelsea. What a good night, only spoiled this morning by finding we are remaining in Tier 3, so the prospects of getting back to work are as remote as ever.

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                                        #172334
                                        sean the sailor
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                                          Last I’ll
                                          Say but teams have gone toe to toe with us and caused us major issues so I don’t get that argument.

                                          Hightown, it didn’t get him anywhere last night and usually I’d agree but we were missing our 3 1st choice centre backs and Fulham cut us open time and time again in 1st 30 mins

                                          Just saying it can be done.

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                                          #172335
                                          maverick1973
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                                            Waspy- I agree,and Fulham should have won that game easy.Liverpool are decimated by injuries,therefore its not impossible to cause them problems.

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