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  • #200699
    Chucky McChuckface
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      There isn’t another oil state… at least I would be very surprised… maybe the Bahraini’s, I can’t see Iran/Iraq/Oman gettig involved.

      I think there will be more US “investors”, and then we all have the fun of looking forward to all the “US” clubs trying to implement more “US” style rules and regulations into the game.

      Of course, I very much doubt a “super league”, introduction to some sort of “draft” system, or even the drastic measure of scrapping promotion/relegation would work in the court of public opinion.

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      #200700
      steveosnakeeye
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        Jim ratcliffe linked…. As he is with most pl clubs when they come up for sale!

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        #200701
        sean the sailor
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          I’ve read the club is worth 5.3blion Ed? Not sure how accurate that is

          Fans are quick to forget were we were ten years ago. We wouldn’t be competing under any other manager in my view.

          We looked absolutely exhausted 2nd half v spurs. We need at least two midfielders and it’s just to much money

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          #200702
          Chucky McChuckface
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            Somehow I can’t see FSG spunking too much cash while this is going on.

            And Liverpool (as any club!) is only worth what you can get for it… not sure how anybody can price them at 5.3 Billion (personally I thought they paid too much for Chelsea, which I’m sure is somehow “linked” to the 5.3 Billion quote).

            Football is a business, no doubt, but I’ve never agree with the principle that the same “valuation” criteria should be used in valuing them as with other more “normal” bussinesses… but it’s not my money! 🙂

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            #200703
            steveosnakeeye
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              I don’t see why Liverpool can’t and don’t spend a little more
              Huge club, if Arsenal can afford it under fffp and the owner not adding from his own pocket then why can’t pool?

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              #200705
              nine nine nine
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                Forbes valued Liverpool at $4.45 billion but it could go higher or lower if sold depending on who comes in for them and what they offer.

                I suspect Fenway wouldn’t want to sell for much less than that.

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                #200706
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                  Will be interesting to see if a potential Liverpool sale tempts the Glazers into selling. There’s probably only Liverpool whose value on the market can closely reflect what Utd could be worth with their global appeal. Would be just our luck though if Ratcliffe decides Liverpool is his best chance of getting hold of an elite club with the Glazers showing no immediate signs of wanting to sell. Ratcliffe is that one final hope for clubs this size of a potential buyer who isn’t an oil state or an American consortium.

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                  #200707
                  Chucky McChuckface
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                    Good point, and if Ratcliffe is smart (and I have no doubt he isn’t, let’s be honest), he’d be playing one of the other depending on interest from anybody else.

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                    #200709
                    nine nine nine
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                      “Ineos CEO Sir Jim Ratcliffe had tabled a late £4.25 billion bid to buy Chelsea.”

                      Ratcliffe clearly has the money having already bid £4.25 billion for Chelsea.

                      I’m sure he would prefer to buy United but if the Glazers won’t sell?

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                      #200711
                      Chucky McChuckface
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                        Have to admit, always thought Ratcliffe was a bit of a tire kicker myself, does too much of his business in “public” for my liking…

                        The first you lot will know about my buying Spuds is when I’m holding up the shirt!! 🙂

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                        #200713
                        nine nine nine
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                          Liverpool seemingly weighing up both the shares and selling options.

                          The headline in the Boston Globe suggests that too “Fenway Sports Group to weigh value of finding new investors or selling Liverpool” and as the Globe is owned by Fenway you would think they’ve got it right.

                          Fenway owe the fans a confirmation of their intentions I would imagine the letter from Spirit of Shankly draws that out of Fenway.

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                          #200716
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                            I’ve often thought that the more successful a club is, the less accepting that club’s fanbase will be of oil money/sportswashing campaigns. That theory will likely be put to the test with Liverpool. I’d like to think the Liverpool fans will resist such a style of ownership anyway. Whether or not they can actually prevent it is another matter entirely.

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                            #200718
                            nine nine nine
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                              Ed, as fans none of us get to choose our owners whoever makes the right offer to Fenway it will be purely their decision whether they sell or not.

                              I’m not sure given Qatar own PSG, the UAE own City and Saudi Arabia own Newcastle there’s scope for an oil money country to buy Liverpool. More likely if not Ratcliffe is an American conglomerate bid assuming Liverpool are actually to be sold.

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                              #200719
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                                This from the Athletic suggests it’s mot impossible, albeit unlikely

                                But what about the other type of new owner the European game has seen in recent years? The one with government ministers on the board, airline sponsors in their pockets and large fossil-fuel deposits to spend? Could Liverpool go state-owned?

                                Well, one of Dubai’s funds kicked the tyres at Anfield in 2008, two years before FSG bought the club, but failed to close the deal and there has been talk of renewed interest from the Emirate more recently. Bahrain is another Gulf state that is often rumoured to be looking for a football partner.

                                So, it is possible, of course, but it just does not feel likely. Liverpool fans have spent a decade defining themselves as supporters of a club run on normal business principles, not the economics of nation-building and soft power. The Kop as the sports subsidiary of Gulf State Inc just does not seem like a great fit.

                                Obviously, fans can’t choose their owners but if the Super League debacle taught us anything, it’s that fan power is not to be dismissed or ignored.

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                                #200720
                                Mikus LFC
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                                  Yes I think Simon Jordan said similar regarding it potentially being new American owners like what happened at Chelsea. Also the dollar is currently very strong vs the pound.

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                                  #200721
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                                    Well that’s a relief 😅

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                                    #200722
                                    Chucky McChuckface
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                                      LOL!!! Did anybody even ask him or did he just “annouce” it himself??

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                                      #200723
                                      sean the sailor
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                                        Ed, I don’t want to be bought over by that kind of ownership. I’ve heard fans saying it’s the only way we can really compete but I don’t but that. Fsg have never said no to a transfer.

                                        Can’t see anything happening for a longtime in anyway.some Liverpool fans need to be careful what they wish for.

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                                        #200724
                                        Nike19
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                                          I don’t believe I’ve ever used this term or described the ownership of 2 certain clubs in such way. However, I have often read across the internet the words ‘Oil Money’. Now what if that was to be us? Wouldn’t that just make us hypocrites altogether?

                                          What I would like at the very least is a legacy left by John Henry in a way we can recall and remembering positively aside him being the saving grace. I can’t fudge away the image I saw of him what went on with the Super League.

                                          But as FSG, if they could leave the club in a good place which is wishful thinking as far as our squad goes, that would really earn the respect and appreciation from supporters.

                                          Yes, we have to be careful too what we wish for. However, the handbrake is off and it’s the present and the future we must start working on.

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                                          #200731
                                          nine nine nine
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                                            “Contrary to some reports, Mumtalakat Holding Company, Bahrain’s sovereign wealth fund, are not looking into buying Liverpool. They have not expressed any interest and don’t plan on doing so.” Ben Jacobs CBS.

                                            If accurate that would more or less rule out the Middle East bar possibly Dubai as I can’t believe that the PL,FA or UEFA would sanction Saudi Arabia, Qatar or the UAE owning a second Club. So if Liverpool are to be sold and it’s not Dubai it looks likely to be another American ownership.

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