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    nine nine nine
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      Spurs in reality are probably 2/3 players short of being a top 4 team but you never know if they win their games in hand or indeed make a couple of signings between now and the end of the January transfer window. They are also missing Son and will be stronger on his return I certainly wouldn’t write them off.

      Spurs were unbeaten in the PL under Conte and yesterday was their first loss in 10 PL games personally I was worried about this game as winning 3 games in less than a month against the same opposition is no easy task. Conte has done a good job at Spurs but if he’s not supported in the transfer market it will likely all end in tears.

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      #193794
      nine nine nine
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        Sean, talk to any Chelsea fan and they will tell you that there’s no comparison between Alonso and Chilwell who was playing out of his skin at the time of his injury and has been a massive miss since his injury made worse by the injury to James.

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        #193795
        Nike19
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          I wouldn’t necessarily class Spurs as poor, but agree with you Sean against United and Arsenal, they are the weaker squad and threadbare in a quality first 11.

          Son is missed. Some players perhaps more towards impact subs than 90 min players. They definitely need to bring in 3-4 new players. This I’m sure is a target and aspiration for Conte but if this isn’t achieved sooner than later then unfortunately his tenure will be short-lived.

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          #193796
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            In fairness Nine, this start of bad form dates back to the West Ham loss for Chelsea. James played in the West Ham loss, the draw with Everton at home, the draw with Wolves. These are the types of games they’ve been slipping up in since James got injured also. I don’t doubt they’re both good players but I don’t see much correlation when I look at the results between James’ absence and the drop off in form.

            Sean, obviously Spurs don’t have a great squad but it’s miles better than Wolves, Brighton, West Ham, Everton, all of whom have taken the game to Chelsea and got results from it recently. Spurs had 3 chances to do something and just collapsed every time. They were never in any of the games.

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            #193797
            nine nine nine
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              There were other injuries from that period too Ed and Kante has been in an out mainly out for a lot of the season. Chilwell has been a significant loss since the 23/11 and Alonso is not a reliable replacement.

              Chelsea tactics to date has been based on attacking wing backs and Chelsea lost one in Chilwell who was on the top of his form then another in James the combination of the two at the time placed them up there with some of the best wing back combinations in Europe imo had that not happened I think Chelsea would have been in a better PL position than they are now that’s just my opinion Ed which is seemingly consistent with the vast majority of Chelsea fans.

              Once James is back and fully match fit and if Chelsea are able to sign a reliable replacement for Chilwell in January I think they will kick on from there and hopefully finish 3rd but time will tell.

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              #193799
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                No I get that Nine. It’s one of those seasons for all the sides in the league this season re injuries and absences, unfortunately. Not much any of us can do about it.

                I think you’ll get back on track regardless and, at least, secure third. I don’t think any of the sides below you are strong enough to capitalise even if you do slip up more, as is the case with City and any slip-ups they have for the remainder of the season I believe.

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                #193800
                sean the sailor
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                  Every club has missed vital players at times this season. Chelsea have a huge squad.

                  Bright, wolves and West Ham are good teams. I think their best starting 11 is actually better then spurs 11. It really is poor.

                  Dier, tatanga, Sanchez etc. average players.

                  Kane,son great players. Emerson right fill is terrible. They need at least two centre backs. Hoijberg good player. Winks averageโ€ฆskip average. Itโ€™s a poor squad. Really poor for a team trying to challenge for top 4.

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                  #193802
                  nine nine nine
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                    Sean, do you really think that losing Robertson for the season and TAA for 8 weeks both at the same time wouldn’t have have an impact on Liverpool??????

                    Chelsea might have a large squad but Alonso is way below the level of Chilwell and there is not a natural replacement for James.

                    You as a Liverpool fan should appreciate the impact that the loss of one or two key players can have on a season given the experiences of last season.

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                    #193805
                    Mikus LFC
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                      Ranieri gone at Watford. Watford have gone through 9 managers I think since Klopp was installed at Liverpool in late 2015.

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                      #193806
                      nine nine nine
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                        Watford’s owners make Roman look patient.๐Ÿ˜Š

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                        #193807
                        Mikus LFC
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                          And like Roman at Chelsea, it arguably works for them. Watford have dropped out the premier league only once since 2015.

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                          #193808
                          sean the sailor
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                            h we would miss them nine but as you said before, itโ€™s pointless moaning about injuries. We have had our vast amount this season aswell. I was saying all clubs have injuries.

                            We had 5 midfield players out at one stage. Iโ€™ve no doubt Chelsea are missing them but they are lacking in other areas aswell at the minute. The two behind lackau chops and changes to much.

                            Chelsea conceded 2 goals in the first 9 pl games? How many of them did Alonso start? Iโ€™m just wondering. I see chelsea fans are on his back. I just think Chelseaโ€™s issues at not killing some games are more then the full backs missing.

                            Battered Everton ,Brighton (1st half)and Burnley but didnโ€™t win. Enough chances in both games. Problem is some of their finishing and now conceding goals. So itโ€™s a few things. You miss the full backs, absolutely no doubt but there are issues in other areas of the pitch. Chelsea are still doing extremely well.

                            Back 3 is changing to much cause of injuries and covid. My point is all teams have had injuries and are missing key players .

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                            #193810
                            nine nine nine
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                              Sean, defending is Alonso weakest point his strength is going forwards.

                              Wing backs have been an integral part of Chelsea’s tactical approach losing one for the rest of the season and another for 8 weeks has had a significant impact on Chelsea tactically it is bad luck and like everyone else who suffers long term injuries Chelsea have had to just get on with it but playing Pulasic and Hudson Odoi as wing backs has demonstrated how short Chelsea are in that area.

                              Jamie Redknapp commented yesterday on how the loss of TAA for a long period of time would have damaged Liverpool but it’s all about opinions.

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                              #193812
                              sean the sailor
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                                Ye but I said Chelsea are missing them nine mate so I agree with you but Iโ€™m saying ,Chelseaโ€™s minor issues are not just missing the full backs. Back 3 have changed a lot cause of injuries and covid. Lackau is not scoring goals and Chelsea miss a lot of chances. Thatโ€™s all I was saying mate. Not having a go

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                                #193813
                                nine nine nine
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                                  No you’re right Sean although the loss of both wing backs has been a significant problem it’s not been the only problem. I’ve still got my fingers and toes crossed for my predicted 3rd place finish though.๐Ÿคž

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                                  #193814
                                  FoxyFoxes
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                                    One thing is for sure and that is that Newcastle are going to have to make a shitload more signings if they want to have a chance to stay up. Their defence and midfield is awful! Goes to show how good a job Bruce was doing all those years! That win against Leeds was highway robbery!

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                                    #193815
                                    Rover
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                                      Everyone must be noticing how regularly people in the stands seem to be collapsing nowadays, yet again last night twice.

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                                      #193816
                                      nine nine nine
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                                        “Manchester United are beginning to step up their search for a new manager, with reports claiming that former Real Madrid chief Julen Lopetegui is on a four-man shortlist alongside long-term candidates Mauricio Pochettino and Erik ten Hag.

                                        Former Barcelona boss Luis Enrique, who is currently head coach of the Spanish national team, is also under consideration for the role.” Express 25/01

                                        Interesting? Can’t see Enrique not taking Spain to the World Cup Finals though.

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                                        #193818
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                                          Yeah Nine, I think if they really wanted Enrique and if Rangnick got top 4, I imagine they’d extend his deal for another 6 months in the hope of getting Enrique after the WC. I’m not convinced by Enrique to be honest.

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                                          #193819
                                          Tugay is God
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                                            Agreed Sean, Emerson is the worst Royal since Prince Andrew.

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