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  • #198331
    Chucky McChuckface
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    The first set of mid-week fitures, with all the bigdogs having one eye of the Euro comps which kick-off the week after… expect to see a lot of rotations from the European contenders as the fixtures pile up.

    We’re away to an out-of-sorts Wet Spam, but they always have an extra buzz in their step when they play their Cup Final…

    LiVARberoOol vs Bone Saw Boyz could be another interesting one…

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    #198333
    Nike19
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    All games on BT Sport.

    We need to prove one swallow doesn’t make a summer and grind out another 3 points. Some positive news going into Saturday, we should have a few players back with us.

    City will dismantle Forest. 10-0 easily.

    Clearly now both Rodgers and Gerrard are under the Spotlight. Harsh maybe, but that’s the industry we live in.

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    #198338
    Brian blue
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    We need to give our young Managers more credit and support them when times are tough. They are relatively new to the job although I suppose Rodgers has experience now. The media do not help with there inflamotary headlines and pre judge to easily. They forget, players are responsible also

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    #198339
    Brian blue
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    The crammed fixtures list will now start to take its toll. This will be a crazy season and will upset all the odds. I cannot see any good from the World Cup, I will be wanting it over before it begins and for us to get back to our domestic programme…better than WC in my opinion

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    #198340
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    City will dismantle Forest. 10-0 easily.

    A new record, easily, Nil?!

    Yeah Gerrard really looks to be clinging on now. Another defeat this week no doubt for him.

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    #198342
    Mikus LFC
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    “They forget, players are responsible also”

    This seems to be the age old debate when the blame game starts with regards who is responsible: players or manager? We no longer live in an age when most players are born within 10 miles of the stadium. Players are now employees and are paid vast sums and I think that will inevitably make them too comfortable, and/or too powerful some may say. So it now falls on the manager to not only coach the team, but motivate them as well. A good manager, like a good leader, has to be an excellent persuader and communicator and most importantly has to preach with authority, and if the players see what the coach preaches actually works, it then gives the players confidence in the manager. But the job never stops in terms of keeping the players feet on the ground and maintaining the motivation. It’s a very difficult job and even the best managers still have their flaws.

    But with Gerrard there seem very little signs of progress from where they are now to when he took over. I’m not sure he has the right demeanour.

    Whilst I still have some criticisms of Arteta, he did win an FA cup early on, so there was clearly something there. And he does look like someone who is having to feel their way into management having previously not having the experience. And steady progress has been made. And I admire greatly what Arsenal are doing supporting the manager with young players and giving him time.

    With Eddie Howe at Bournemouth he clearly had something because he overachieved with them with their budget. Rodgers clearly had something when he begun his Liverpool career, ditto Klopp, ditto Pep, etc, etc.

    So it doesn’t take that long to see if a manager has it, or doesn’t. You can see steady progress being made with the players constantly reacting to the manager – both short term and long term.

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    #198345
    Brian blue
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    Nil…you disappoint me…only 10!!!! Forrest have a busy style which City always find difficult to play against, yes I am expecting a win…maybe 3-1 but then again you know how useless I am at predictions so we loose 1-0

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    #198346
    Brian blue
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    Mikus, agree with what you say but there has to be a learning curve, I would put that down 3-5 years at one club. 3 maybe for someone with experience. e.g. Rodgers 5 for inexperienced like Arteta, Lampard and Gerrard….the latter I discount his experience up north. However, , it has to start right with the owners and manager committed, not all will be winners that is for sure but it appears to me that the clubs that struggle do not have a focused plan, just buying players is not an answer

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    #198347
    nine nine nine
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    Brian, Manager are judged on results if the results are poor they won’t last long certainly not 5 years.

    I think Gerrard will be given more time but the Villa fans are restless which puts pressure on the owners to find a solution.

    Gerrard needs some results going in his favour.

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    #198349
    Mikus LFC
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    Brian, hence I think Gerrard picked the wrong club if he’s to make it as manager. A good championship club would have been a better bet as he’d be less in the spotlight and be freer to make more mistakes without as much pressure being on. Villa are still a big club with ambitious owners who have some good players and have spent a bit. And it’s one of the most competitive leagues out there. Both of Graham Potter’s and Eddie Howe’s second jobs were in the championship. I just fear Gerrard went too big too quickly and got into a false sense of security that he had gained enough experience.

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    #198350
    Brian blue
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    Nine…all I am saying is that how I would like to see it…results or not as long as some progress was being made and that is hard to define in the modern jungle

    Did you watch the U21s last week?? Some good youngster coming through

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    #198351
    Brian blue
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    Mikus, I think you are right about Gerrard but at least he has had a go

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    #198352
    nine nine nine
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    Brian, even Pep would struggle if the results were poor and he’s said that himself. I only saw a little bit of the U 21 game and I thought City looked the better team.

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    #198353
    Brian blue
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    Nine..what Pep actually said was he would leave if the players did not believe in him, results did not come into it because in his mind, he sees a game, makes a plan, picks a team and they should follow the plan. Of course he gets it wrong sometimes but the players are there to carry out his plan, no room for those who do not. He will eventually leave City and we have a task of replacing him then but in my mind this will already be known and steps taken for his successor. At the moment , according to Pep he is happy and sees no reason to move unless the club wants a change, If City go on a loosing run there will be a reason for it and that could be decision time. However, looking at the current squad and the U 21/18s coming though, future looks bright…We may get 3rd spot this year and get to the Semi in CL, Hopefully win the FA Cup because I love it. All good fun

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    #198360
    sean the sailor
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    Gerrard like Lampard took on to big of a job far to early in his managerial career

    He doesn’t know his best 11 and changes formation far to much. He be sacked very soon. Cant see him turning it around. They have some smashing players but are dreadful

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    #198389
    nine nine nine
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    Reece James missing tonight v Southampton big loss as is Kante and Kovacic who is probably still not fit enough to start a game.

    With 3 games a week from now until the World Cup missing players will become the norm.

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    #198391
    Nike19
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    These block of games brought in in the format of kick off times remind me when we had the Covid Restart. It seems to so far that the scorelines coming out of it too are not the ones one would expect, it’s that much unpredictable.

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    #198392
    Nike19
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    Come On Leeds!!!!!

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    #198393
    steveosnakeeye
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    Chelsea can’t buy a win 😁

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    #198394
    sean the sailor
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    Thought Southampton were excellent. Didnt give chelsea a minute

    Saints were unlucky againeat utd aswell. Big win for them

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