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  • #196363
    Nike19
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    I’m going with the Brentford guy in terms of exceeding expectations; a big surprise. Howe deserves recognition for turning Newcastle around, but not enough in my books.

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    #196364
    Adlab
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    The one thing it seems all agree on …..its not Klopp!

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    #196365
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    Haha, Adlab not quite πŸ™‚

    The Brentford Manager should receive an Award for sure. What I’m saying personally is that shouldn’t take away the shine off both Jurgen and Pep’s achievements.

    A face-value congratulations; though this is probably better served in-house amongst the Big Boys in Suits.

    I think the Manager Of The Year in Essence is open to interpretation as evident on discussion here from the subject brought up.

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    #196366
    FoxyFoxes
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    I think I made the comment on here about 2 or 3 games into Howe taking charge at Newcastle that they were in dire trouble and based on the lack of quality they had in defence and midfield they were going to finish 20th. Howe may have spent some money, but really in the grand scheme of things it wasn’t that much. One could argue they were simply spending what should have been spent in the previous 5 or 6 seasons of underinvestment, and even then it wouldn’t come close. If you consider that Fat Frank came in not long after Howe to a squad that had already invested huge amounts in comparison and then added DVB and Alli on top of that, Howe has done an incredible job. THe signings Newcastle brought in were hardly world class or renowned players, Trippier is the wrong side of 30, otherwise could fall into that category.
    I don’t disagree too much with the argument for Thomas Franck, but we have seen countless examples of promoted teams coming up and finishing mid table before, it’s highly commendable but certainly not outstanding. Howe had half a season to turn around a langiushing team who were destined to finish 20th and finished 11th.
    Just to cement the point about Howe, only Liverpool, City and Spurs accumulated more points than Newcastle in 2022, which when you consider he only took charge in late Nov is incredible!

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    #196367
    FoxyFoxes
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    Here’s my theory/view on Klopp.
    I think that for all his brilliance, as long as Pep is at City I think City will continue to pip Liverpool to the league, barring crazy number of injuries at City. Pep is great at creating a well oiled machine that does the same thing week-in-week-out which is what you want for a league assualt, however his system isn’t as good at revving up the gears when it is needed (see his multiple failures in cup comps). Klopp’s system is far more reliant on graft and energy. That system is hard to maintain a consistent performance throughout the course of a season (the fact he’s come close to City so many times now is incredible), however they are brilliant at revving up and going up a gear for one-off games, which is greatly suited to cup comps. I have absolutely no doubt that Liverpool will make mincemeat of Madrid, in fact they would have beaten any club in Europe (City included) as they are animals when they have the bit between their teeth.
    If (and that’s a big if) my prediction comes true and Klopp continues to be a cup-man rather than a league-man then they will be seen as the best Second-Best team ever to exist in my view.

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    #196370
    Adlab
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    How to Murder Your Husband author convicted of shooting own husband

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/how-to-murder-your-husband-author-convicted-shooting-husband-b1002448.html

    Couldn’t resist this look it up.

    It’s still Howe, possibly Brentford or Brighton manager

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    #196371
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    Comparisons of Liverpool and Man City:

    There is and there isn’t a difference. I don’t think a great deal. I think just slightly in players they have more and of quality. E.g. their Defense; Cancelo, Diaz. And more back ups such as Ake and Stones. Middle of the Park, Rodri. Gundogen and Bernardo.

    We’ve had issues with injuries and form in Naby Keita. His form has been open to question by some fans but he did step up against Newcastle. He is better suited when supplemented by Fabinho. Oxlaid Chamberlain looks like out of favour, but he was the player who had drive through the middle channel and would take shots. That’s shots at the keeper relentlessly we’ve missed. We’ve not been as relentless as Man City in some matches leading to dropped points and draws instead of wins.

    The job has been done with results put together which in itself was remarkable to claw back a 12 point lead and take the race right to 75 mins of the final day.

    That’s the only real difference I see. It’s funny that once again we’re the team that loses a minimal amount of games but finish as Runners Up. Pep is definitely some machine πŸ™‚

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    #196372
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    Well Eddie Howe may have what it takes, but he’s going to need financial backing and time to implement changes. Lots more new signings too this summer.

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    #196373
    Brian blue
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    Nike..I have mentioned before, little difference between the teams. Injuries played a part for City as well as Liverpool, we do have good back ups though.The difference between Klopp and Pep is little as well but the difference is there and that what counts. I have no problem Klopp being manager of the Year, fully deserved in my opinion, two Cups and a final to come. Just keep focusing on RM and get the win

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    #196421
    Rover
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    These methods of playoffs for promotion and relegation really need to be revised, how can a team that finished 8th 11 points behind the 3rd placed team but then go on to best them in the playoff final qualify for promotion? That’s really not right.

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    #196422
    Brian blue
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    Rover..you are right…it is an absolute nonsense….what is the point in having a league table then. Just another of those money making daft ideas

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    #196440
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    Congratulations Nottingham Forest on their triumph yesterday. It’s been a long time coming and Welcome Back To The Big Time!

    Key Information for Next Season Starting August 6 Saturday and new Fixtures will be out Thursday 16th June from 9am

    https://www.sportingnews.com/us/soccer/news/premier-league-2022-23-teams-fixtures-key-dates/qwpwxgpv5tiufnpytixdj6ml

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    #196442
    Nike19
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    There’s always been that debate regarding the play offs. I fully agree. Let’s say a Team finishes 3rd on 80 points, but a Team then ‘sneaks in’ on 59 points and wins the play-off for the final PL place, how can be merited? I get it.

    However in relation to this particular battle, I felt Forest were merited with 23 wins and 80 points, only 2 behind 3rd placed Huddersfield. It is a shame, but in fairness that was effectively evenly balanced and fair play to the Midlands side – should give Leicester a run for their money haha πŸ™‚

    Would there be a correlation and the same argument used against a Team that finishes 4th place and qualifies for the CL, but the gap between them in points versus the Top 2 was big?

    A long time ago, it was only the Top 2 that would qualify, but the way things have been now for years, can’t see that changing given the new proposals that’s essentially the alternative blueprint to the opposed Super League.

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    #196448
    Brian blue
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    Cl designed by UEFA to protect their favourite teams, you do not even have to be a Champion as well. Make the competition shorter and just have Champions whoever that may be, it will also ease up the fixture list and make the competition credible for its name In some ways it would be a better end of season event than the Euros

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    #196450
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    Brian, completely agree.

    I just think there’s far too much asked of players to sustain and uphold peak fitness and form for 60+ games. Injuries cant be helped. What also doesn’t help is tournaments like the nations league.

    Everything else I see is being accommodated yet I see very little wriggle room for our english top flight league.

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    #196453
    Brian blue
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    City have one of the smallest squads, although I think that will be rectified next season with 5 subs allowed. It was interesting to read KDB criticising the up and coming internationals as a waste of time and they are just glorified friendlies, As you say, the demands on players now is becoming excessive, remember, they were talking about winter breaks now that has gone out of the window, so to speak, for the World Cup in some totally unsuitable place but I guess Blatter and Co topped up there pension

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