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I said below on 25th July on TT
“I’m really worried to be honest, we are so up against it to compete this season, despite the sheer depth of our squad it is irrelevant when it is so unbalanced. Arsenal and spurs have much better balance in their squads and I struggle to see how we will match them over 38 games.
The biggest challenge is always psychological, the longer our players believe we are challenging the longer we maintain our levels, but the moment we lose the belief the levels drop… we are starting the season with zero belief we can genuinely challenge and that scares me.
Should be clear from my pessimism that I am prepared for the worst which is why when it happens it will be others on here in hysterics and not me as I am totally ready for everything that’s coming.”
This is why I don’t blame Potter, I saw it coming even under Tuchel.
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I sympathise with that Lucky, and I also saw to some degree Liverpool’s decline coming too. However Klopp at Liverpool has a lot of credit in the bank for him to be under any significant pressure this season. When Eddie Howe walked into Newcastle they were at the bottom, and whilst they did have new ambitious owners, there was no expectation on him to suddenly get them up to the top of the table. I think the concern for Potter at Chelsea is regardless of the long term project that Boehly wants to adopt, Chelsea are a top club who have won very big trophies in the last few years so there is going to be a residual expectation from that. When Moyes went into Utd after their recent success it was meant to be a long term project. We saw what happened not long after that. Yes there were other factors like their transfer strategy at that time, as there are at Chelsea now one might argue. But then, I guess the argument would be that any prospective manager, particularly one that hasnt managed a big club, needs to assess all that before joining. It may be very tempting to join such a big club, but the circumstances need to be right or else he’ll be walking into situation where it could be a baptism of fire.
I’m not necessarily defending the press asking such questions of Potter, but they’ll argue they are asking such questions because Chelsea are such a big club who won the CL just 18 months ago and have now appointed a manager who has no experience at a big club or in the CL.
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They can rationalise it all they want mikus but they are preying on him and building a narrative thst they know sells. Its tried and tested mate. They all spent months reporting on the troubles at Chelsea and now want to pin it on Potter.
Also, only the new owners at Chelsea can say what his remit is or the expectations are. I believe they are playing the long game but we will see about that and how much patience they have.
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Really well put Mikus
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Put simply, anyone who thought Chelsea would have anywhere near a good season this year is either ignorant or stupid.
Expectations that are not grounded in reality don’t deserve the slightest consideration from Chelsea board and I just hope they can ignore the mob and stay focused.
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Lucky, they might well be playing the long game but the Chelsea fans singing Tuchel’s name, as they did today, isn’t going to help Potter’s case. I do wonder how long the fans would put up without CL football before demaninga change. 1 season? 2? I think Chelsea fans would force Potter out if they finished anywhere near where they are now.
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Potter will be sacked finishing 10th almost sure of that. Just give him until end of season I will be happy.
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I am expecting at least one season outside CL no chance top 4 this season
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The chelsea fans screaming for Potter to get sacked are in la la land. They don’t realise it only “worked” for us while we had a squad pretty much ready to compete.
Normal clubs think long term, the chelsea owners say they are thinking long term and most of their signings and appointment of potter in first place is testamentto that, so for the press to project Romans leadership style onto new owners or hype up “residual expectation” is just terrible journalism that isn’t trying to understand anything about the reality and blatantly an attempt to create a narrative that sells and baits attention.
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The way I see it chelsea has clearly dropped to a position closer to that of just before roman arrived.
The only way back to competing for big titles is a longer road full of hard work before we deserve that kind of team again. We don’t deserve it as a club right now and I can accept that.
Shame many can’t, especially non chelsea fans in media and press
I am fearful of all the potential problems highlighted on this thread but I know you will excuse me for choosing to be optimistic and backing the manager of my club 4 months in to the toughest job a chelsea manager has had for 20 years.
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I think pep would be destroyed managing the players available to Potter.
Anyone want to argue that? I am in the mood for it 🤣
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I don’t think anyone is surprised you’re backing him Lucky. We had it with Ten Hag after just 2 games. Some of the media had already written him off before his Utd side kicked a ball. Ironically, Paul Merson criticised Utd for hiring Ten Hag instead of Potter, a criticism which he seems to have been less vocal about recently 🙂. Erik Ten Weeks was a thing for a bit bit soon died down. This really isn’t a Chelsea thing Lucky. It’s just how expectations and thus the media work.
For what it’s worth, I fully agree with you. He obviously needs time. Boehly is going to look pretty silly if he abandons a long term plan after a few months.
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There were reports not so long ago about senior people at Chelsea not being convinced by Koulibaly. That’s why Badiashile was bought. If these reports are true, then these people will be thinking the same about Potter sooner or later.
It is confusing what these Chelsea owners want. I have read they have a long term project, yet some short term signings were bought and Ronaldo was targeted. That does not sound long term, it sounds like they do not know what they are doing and throwing money for the sake of it. It reminds of when Woodward came in and started giving long term contracts to the likes of Jones, Nani and others because he thought they would become good and would receive a good fee for them if they didn’t.
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No that’s right Ed, it’s not a chelsea thing, it’s a media thing, it’s just chelsea right now and it’s in overdrive.
But it’s nonsense that is not excused by failing to be unique.
If boehly sacks Potter he will look very stupid indeed, but it all depends on why and when and all I hope is we get to end of season before it’s reassessed.
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Of course Potters position will be reassessed CM I don’t see why you needed to bring koulibaly in to it to argue your case it’s only natural everything is reassessed.
The transfer strategy was 2 fold.
1) fill the gaps in first team with experienced players, sterling, koulibaly, cucurella and aubameyang and these are tuchel signings imo he chose auba over ronaldo for example. Only sterling would I still take of them.
2) young players under 22 signed under long contracts obviously for the development of the team longer term. I believe well before boehly coming in he employed specialists in data analysis and was provided lists of players whose predicted future value is considerably higher than it is currently and who can be moulded in to the image of the team the coach is building. There some sort of money ball going on for sure.
FYI, I have my reservations on how many of these young players will ever become city or pool level players but no choice but to wait on the outcome.
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As always, an interesting article from the Athletic on this very topic
The Chelsea fans who chanted for Roman Abramovich & Thomas Tuchel at #MCFC are struggling to accept their club's diminished status.
That is hardly surprising… but it will not make the job of Graham Potter or Todd Boehly any easier.@Liam_Twomey on another tough night for #CFC
— The Athletic | Football (@TheAthleticFC) January 8, 2023
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If these experienced players end up doing well, then these players under 22 are not going to get the chance to develop or play 1st team football. If there are going to be short term hindrance, then play the youngsters and let them grow.
There is a contradiction with their project, when they want something long term, yet end up buying established players who could play for 4-5 years.
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No it’s not contradiction CM, you are utd fan you know the best teams are mix of both youth and experience mate 👍
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Ed “struggling to accept” is a nicer way than saying “in la la land” which is how I put it 😆
That’s why they paid the big bucks at the athletic!
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I agree with that statement. But doesn’t your side have enough experience in Silva, Kante, Jorginho, Chilwell and Kovacic already. The signings were made in the summer before the injury crisis. If you had a fully fit squad, how many of the under 22 would get a chance within the next 4-5 years.
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