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You would think a puppy would know how to spell whine… 🙂
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Sean would you feel the same if it came out that the City players were taking illegal performance enhancing drugs? Cause it’s essentially the same thing, only they have an enhanced squad due to financial doping.
we likely won’t be retrospectively given any title but we can agree to disagree there. I imagine I’m in the minority of fans who would want it to be amended.
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PSGs owners in trouble too??
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“PSG president Nasser Al-Khelaifi has been charged in connection with a three-year corruption probe allegedly involving ex-FIFA secretary general Jerome Valcke. Both deny any wrongdoing.” Sky Sports News. 20/2
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I think if the case is upheld then there need to be severe sanctions against city for this. not just a two-year European ban from UEFA. The premier league, the FA and the EFL need to step in. Manchester City has allegedly cheated teams out of titles, trophies and prize money. they have cheated fans out of seeing their teams wins leagues and cups they have seen their teams lose out on players they could have signed. I don’t know what a fair punishment is but what they have allegedly done is severe and they should be punished accordingly.
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Think we might need another thread the above is seemingly to do with the World Cup and not PSG related.
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Whats wrong with these rich people,eh?
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I think what’s done is done, the idea of handing trophies to a previous runner up is something I don’t think such teams would want anyway.
Everyone knew City had outspent everyone when these trophies were being won so they never going to get the same respect as a lower spending team anyway. It’s a shame in some part because an awful lot of hard work still went into that success, (which will always be the case). But it was the shear volumes of money being thrown around, and quite a lot blown and wasted, i.e. money they arguably didn’t even need to spend, which I think tarnished the success and left more of a bitter taste. I mean Kompany, probably one of City’s most important players of the last decade, hardly cost anything and was bought just weeks/months I think before the big takeover.
And for the record, Man Utd certainly haven’t covered themselves in glory in recent years with the money they’ve blown and wasted.
So regardless of whether any punishment is dished out, that’s ultimately what people will remember.
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Firstly this is a UEFA, if the PL want to have their own case then it will have to be a totally separate case.
If they do this and Man City were to be found guilty then the punishment would be one going forward and not retrospectively giving titles to others. The league is not a one of event, and as such the governing body would have to remove Man City’s results from the seasons concerned, in effect making it a 19 team league. Personally I don’t think they will go down that road as it could have so many consequences, depending on how it would effect the seasons concerned final table. The obvious one is league winner, then different teams would have qualified for European competitions, it may have affected who got relegated and as money is paid out on finishing position then some teams will be owed and some owe, the law suits would be tremendous…..Pagan
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Paxton, surely the bar has been set for financial irregularities, 12 point deduction for the next season, ÂŁ600k fine and excluded from the next FA Cup.
But if you appeal it’s just a ÂŁ1.5m fine…….Pagan
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Whatever one thinks or says about the City owners, and if they have cheated I certainly hope the punishment sticks, I would like to just throw another slant on them. The area of Manchester where the Etihad is located is a very deprived part of the city. While I know they didn’t build the stadium (and in fact the previous owners got given it following the Commonwealth Games…but that’s another argument!), they have totally changed the area since they took over the club. It is now a much safer environment and they have definitely contributed to this improvement, and I’m sure the local resident’s lives have improved with it. They have also kept the prices down for matches. They are still one of the cheapest places to watch Premiership football and obviously one of the best in terms of quality (which makes it all the more surprising it’s not full more often).
So while they may have cheated their way to where they are now, they have helped the local community and have been altruistic to an extent.
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Mak, I don’t really care about city.
If found guilty they will be punished. If they get off it won’t bother me in the slightest. Money talks and I think they will get off
Stevo, I don’t see any hatred mate. City fans are defending their club which loyal fans will do
Others are pointing out why they think they are guilty.
I really couldn’t care less about it to be honest chum.
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…but I recall you got pretty irate with Adlab earlier in this thread, so you do care a bit! Or does Adlab just wind you up?
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And for the record, Man Utd certainly haven’t covered themselves in glory in recent years with the money they’ve blown and wasted. Man United should have a transfer ban imposed for the next 5 years,and only allowed to sign young players worth £5m or less.
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Adlab just winds me up hh ?
Spouts out something that isn’t true and never backs it up then doesn’t answer when questioned on it ?
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Chairman at PSG being charged :
This is starting to sound familiar : “Al-Khelaifi released a statement claiming the charge “will be proven completely groundless and without any substance whatsoever”
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Going back to City, I’ve never asserted/claimed the club’s innocence (CMak and Chucky) and there’s no melodrama. My stance is that it may well be found guilty but we can’t reach that conclusion because we don’t know the full story yet, nor the outcome of the deliberations from CAS. There’s nothing else to say on this matter as it’s pointless to have a dialogue of the deaf so I won’t.
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HH, I don’t like city one bit mate, esp after their carrying on during that plane ride a year or so ago. That said you are correct in they are actually putting money into communities. I know they’ve set up a club here in Oz and they are actually making an effort to improve the game all round so credit where it’s due for that.
Like Sean I think money talks so regardless of their guilt or not I think they will get off with a minor punishment, if any at all._____________________________
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“My stance is that it may well be found guilty but we can’t reach that conclusion because we don’t know the full story yet, nor the outcome of the deliberations from CAS. There’s nothing else to say on this matter as it’s pointless to have a dialogue of the deaf so I won’t.”
We’ll never know the full story unless they both agree to an open hearing, which I’m 99% sure City won’t go with because judging by those emails, they haven’t got a leg to stand on. You want to get stroppy because I asked you how City could possibly get out of this, well that did fall on deaf ears alright…
The answer is of course, via technicality.
I don’t entirely agree with Sean and Oz with regards to “money talks”. I mean, in almost every conceivable situation this is a really solid position, however if money was all that mattered in an individual case then this situation wouldn’t be happening. UEFA are gunning for City, they’ve contracted in a team of extra lawyers to draw up this case because even though UEFA are a bunch of greedy bastards, they understand the damage that these entities are doing to their competitions. They are serving the game by serving themselves and I’m ok with that.
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Going back to City, I’ve never asserted/claimed the club’s innocence (CMak and Chucky) and there’s no melodrama. My stance is that it may well be found guilty but we can’t reach that conclusion because we don’t know the full story yet, nor the outcome of the deliberations from CAS. There’s nothing else to say on this matter as it’s pointless to have a dialogue of the deaf so I won’t.
Surrey, City have already been found guilty, Cassie is just an “appeal”, there’s no waiting to see if they’re guilty… and personally, I’m just after some sort of theory from anybody as to how City could be innocent. We’ve all read the e-mails. Agree we don’t know what Cassie are going to do, but I very much doubt City will suddenly be found innocent. Getaway with a technicality? Perhaps. But innocent? Never….
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