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To be fair to Hargreaves he may have only produced for one season but he dominated the midfield that season against the top sides in the league and in Europe.
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Are there players we’re linked with who you don’t think we should sign?
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Definitely shouldn’t have Rashford back…..
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Rashford coming back should not even be discussed.. that vile cunt should stay over there in Spain just as his mate Garnacho is over in London..
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I heard something on the radio a couple of days ago, which could be interesting.
Regarding our summer transfers.
There was a football finance expert on (can’t remember his name). He was saying the PSR are changing. The gist of it was from my understanding (I’m sure somebody has better information/knowledge than me so happy to be corrected) is that currently clubs are signing younger players on longer contracts so the can balance the books for PSR purposes, and generally not signing players over 28 years old as cost of the player and the Salary can’t be written off as less likely to sell said player for a profit.
Now apparently theses new PSR rules will mean that clubs like us will not have to worry about signing older players and how it effects PSR.
Therefore we’re more likely to go for an experienced player than if the rules weren’t changing._____________________________
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The rule is changing to prevent ‘amortisation’, at least I think that’s the word. Chelsea bought a load of young player for huge amounts but by paying them off over the course of the seven or eight year contract they were able to stay within PSR rules. Now you can’t do that. My understanding, limited and possibly wrong, is that if you go and buy, say, Christos Mouzakitis from Olympiacos for £80m plus wages over five years. Now your PSR reflects £16m a year over five years. When the rules change, it will be £80m now, regardless of if you pay off over five years.
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Seems like Wharton comes out on top of almost all metrics when compared with Anderson at Forest. Passes forward, interceptions, duals won, passing under pressure – all that bollocks. Wharton is a lot of the time the no.1 on the metric in the league. Nearly always top 5. Whereas Anderson comes in at around 20th or 30th for a lot of these midfield attribute metrics.
It’s a hugely important transfer this one and they absolutely have to get it right in the summer. Surely they’ve seen enough of Baleba to rule him out now. Must be between the other 2 and both City & Liverpool are sniffing around as well.
Sounds like we might pick up a left winger, lots of rumours around this Yan Diomande fella. A goal keeper because Onana is definitely leaving according to Fabrizio. But from the reports it seems we’ll be picking up a few squad players in different positions with the full focus on central midfield – and maybe we’ll buy 2 of them.
At least JM will finally be happy!
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@happy, Do we need a ‘keeper? Lammens is good and seems to be improving, Vitek will most likely be back as well, he seems to be maturing nicely. Although, neither will be happy to be a No. 2. We maybe need a 31/32 year old who would be happy to be a 2nd or 3rd choice but is a decent keeper at the same time.
€100m for Yan Diomande? I’d rather pay the same sum, although Everton aren’t looking for that much, for Illiman N’Diaye, at least we know what he can do in the PL. Diomande could be another one of those players who rips it up in Bundesliga but can’t hack it in the PL (Jadon Sancho anyone). Also RBL only paid about £14m for him last summer, fuck right off you shower of cunts.
There’s a big difference between metrics and reality. Yes, they should be an indicator but they’re not the be all and end all when it comes to decision making. In terms of physical presence I’d rather Anderson over Wharton. Also you have to take into account that Forest are a complete shitshow this season while Palace (until recently) were doing ok._____________________________
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If we bought Wharton we would still need legs and physicality in midfield to play alongside him because he’s far too one paced to play as an outright DMF. Fuck knows who that might be because I have big doubts about Baleba and Anderson as well, especially at 70 million plus.
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I think Baleba and Anderson aren’t as technically good as Wharton but they are more mobile and more physical. If we’re planning on keeping Mainoo, and it very much looks like we are, then I don’t think we need Wharton, they’re too similar and wouldn’t be able to boss the midfield or close gaps. Mainoo still isn’t mature enough to do it, as seen by the fact that we basically collapse when Casemiro leaves the field. That’s not to say that he won’t be able to do it in time, with experience, but he definitely can’t at the moment. I’m all for signing Anderson, I’m very much on the don’t sign side of the fence for Baleba but I still think we need to be looking at an experienced midfielder, Neves signed a new contract in Saudi yesterday so he’s off the table. Definitely could have signed him on a free on higher wages if we’d moved fast enough.
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@killy .. Good shoutout for Ndiaye at Everton quite skillful and easily always beats his man but we won’t go for him because he isn’t blowing up in d media; 100M for Diomande is an absolute NO !!!
With regards to the midfield we cannot afford to throw money at a lightweight midfielder who can’t close down, tackle, or properly win the ball for us and that basically rules out wharton for me. Another note is that Anderson and Wharton are both stylistically different players .. Anderson is more of an action box to box player whereas Wharton is the complete opposite of that.
In my opinion we need at least 3 midfielders but most importantly an outright DM
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Anderson is strong though, I saw some clip, and clips can be misleading, of him playing in Europe (Ithink against Porto) and he took the ball on the edge of the box and was able to hold off the opposition, physically shrug off tackles. Whether he could be the out and out DM I don’t know, I haven’t seen enough of him.
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Anderson has always played in a double pivot with him been the midfielder given license to roam and move about .. for Forest he plays with Ibrahim Sangare who sits infront of the defence the same with England; Rice sitting infront of the defence and Anderson moving about.
He definitely isn’t the out and out DM we need to replace Casemiro. He could however be one of the center midfielders we do sign as we will need more than 1.
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Anyone seen much of our kid Sekou Kone? The guy who’s at Lausanne now. Is he realistically a potentially good enough player to be a DM long term?
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Sympathy-I agree about Goretzka,there is nothing wrong with signing him this summer,especially since it would be on a free transfer.Case is going,and hopefully so will be Ugarte,so that leaves plenty of room and money for a player like him!
We would need @least one more midfielder to be signed,someone to play on regular basis.I’m defo for going for Anderson and Wharton,both English,young,and know the PL._____________________________
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Rumour mill has Anderson to Citeh and Wharton to the scousers.
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Do the scousers even need Wharton? Not that we definitely want him….. If Pep leaves City this summer, or if he’s going to leave next summer, no-one will go. He’s the only reason players are going there. Watch Haaland fuck off to Madrid within 18 months of Pep leaving.
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I suspect we’ll have to suffer one more season of that frothing, neurotic prick Guardiola, especially if Citeh don’t win the title this season. The narcissist cunt will want to leave on a high.
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Haaland should already be playing for Barca, not for a artificial, plastic club with no history. All managers and players go to City or Chelsea for the money!
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