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In regards to jeremy jacquet, we sold one of our youngsters(quanshah) who is now stepping up for £35 mill… so jaquet is older and is highly regarded in europe.. lets see how he gets on!
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Rob, that’s why I said “And of course, just like any other top team, they get some deals wrong”.
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” isaks done better and is more highly regarded than any of those.”
Asiansensation, you have to compare like for like, and that’s why you have to compare Isak to his fellow strikers, for example his fellow Swede, Gyokeres who cost half the amount of Isak, who after a slow start has 11 goals already, and in a new league.
The reason why I was 100% against us signing Isak, NO WAY could I see him being almost double the price of Gyokeres (£125m vs £64m), yet they have almost exactly the same stats, and are the same age.
And worst of all, Isak is highly injury-prone, compared to the incredibly durable Gyökeres. What exactly was Richard Hughes thinking, on this particular transfer?
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Rob they consistently get value back from those deals, even if they are making a loss on every other player it does not appear like that in the accounts. The amortization holds and they do make a profit here and there, otherwise they could not have invested as much as they have done in the past few seasons.
It´s not a good football model but it makes business sense and the rules allow it, the difference between us and them is that they have been offering 8 year contracts.
BTW this is a hopeless discussion, when me songman and ginger agree on something we are not likely to change our views lol, I would take that as a anomaly and just agree with it.
I doubt the lads wages are that high, most likely around the 100k margin and he will be expected to challenge for a spot in the team, get at least 20-25 games in all competitions. His value will hold or climb higher, if he starts competing as a first team regular and play about 25 games in the league his value will hold at 120 million in the future as long we keep him on a long term deal.
I´m not saying he will do that but even if he fails and we sell in 2 seasons we are likely to get back 40-45 million. That´s just the going rate for a footballer these days, if not higher.
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Gyökeres is a lesser version of Nunez in my opinion or just about the same, he does not quite have the same work rate but he might be more physical as a player, neither are that clinical. Isak is composed compared to them and that is why we paid for him, how you state that a player that has had about 6-7 seasons of professional football and finished 5 of them with more than 40 games is highly injury prone just does not make sense. Accurately he has had one major injury a part from this one and fully recovered again to play over 40 games a season with one season out. If we count that 7th season which was the start of his career he also played over 90% of the games available. One injury does not make a player injury prone and even then you will find players that overcome it, best example a 32 year old Baggio. Who was actually injury prone and had terrible knees. From the start at in Florens
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Sunderland are the last unbeaten side at home this season, what a season they are having…
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“HT: Arsenal 0-0 Chelsea
Viktor Gyökeres update.
He had three touches in the first half.”
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Regarding Jacquet’s price of £60m, the closest comparison I can find recently, is Dean Huijsen, aged 20, 51 senior apps, cost £50m, and already a Spain international with 6 apps.
Jacquet is the same age 20, with 38 senior apps, not an international (yet), but has started every game for Rennes this season, apart from two games where he was suspended.
So Jacquet cost £60m, which is £10m more than Huijsen, not a great amount, in my opinion – unlike the folly of Isak costing an astounding £61m more than Gyökeres.
I would compare Jacquet’s signing to that of his fellow Frenchman Ekitike, who we bought for £79m, which is slightly more expensive than the likes of other strikers/attackers,last summer, like Cunha (£63m), Gyokeres (£64m) and Mbuemo (£71m). And Ekitike has fully delivered so far, and could even exceed expectations.
Of course, no one knows how Jacquet will do at Liverpool, but at least he’s not ludicrously overpriced like Isak.
By comparison, we paid £30m for Leoni, aged only 18, and with only 17 apps in Serie A.
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Dean Huijsen had a buy out clause.
Jacquet did not.Sporting were willing sellers for Gyorkeres.
Newc were not willing sellers for Isak.There are multiple factors that determine a players price.
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“Viktor Gyökeres update.”
11 goals in 31 games (so far this season) for half the price of Isak. I’d buy him over Isak, all day long, and every day of the week.
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2Sporting were willing sellers for Gyorkeres.
Newc were not willing sellers for Isak.”True, but that doesn’t mean you just pay any ridiculous price you’re quoted by Newcastle. That’s a sure fire way to fail in business in the real world.
The going price for top strikers last summer was £60m to £80m. And there is absolutely NOTHING that Isak has to justify him being priced £45m above this range, nothing at all, he’s definietly not at the level of Haaland, Kane or Mbappe, who can command such a price.
And that’s even before considering his poor injury record.
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“Dean Huijsen had a buy out clause.
Jacquet did not.”Yes, that’s correct, but all I was trying to do is find a comparable deal to Jacquet, and that’s the closest I could find, in terms of age, price and transfer window, unless of course you know of others.
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” how you state that a player that has had about 6-7 seasons of professional football and finished 5 of them with more than 40 games is highly injury prone just does not make sense. “
Notororious, before Isak got his serious injury, he had already missed 10 games injured for us this season. Sounds like an injury-prone player to me.
And when is he coming back anyway?
As for Gyökeres, I’d buy him over Isak all day long, he has a very similar scoring rate, but most of all he’s available most of the time – and all for half the price of Isak.
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I’ve provided just 2 factors, as a example, that can affect a players price.
There are multiple others which is why its important to consider them and not just “the going rate” in any particular window.
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Gyorkeres has similar scoring rate in the Prem as Nunez.
We sold Nunez.
One of the new strikers we bought has a circa 1 in 2 strike rate in the Prem previously.
Both of these are younger than Gyorkeres.
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he was not out injured Songman, it was a fitness issue, just look up his injury record on transfermarkt, I´ll admit that it took him some time to get over that first big injury, he had a couple of related injuries but it is the only season a part from this one he has missed. Otherwise he has been playing around 90% of available gametime. 40-46 games a season plus international football. A highly injury prone player does not play 50 games a season.
He is likely to come back before the end of the season, he will have a full pre-season with us next summer, he might still win us a trophy this season.
Out of all the strikers in the world right now, there is only a handful of players that are better than Isak. Haaland, Mbappe and Kane are the only three that pop up in my mind. With all of them being more clinical but this is Isak´s opportunity to prove that he is good enough to win titles.
I still think he will achieve that over here. I don´t give a flying fuck about his transfer fee.
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I must say, the way Villa are treating Elliott is a disgrace. Never do business with them again.
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They’re treating him abysmally and even worse trying to blame us……
https://www.thisisanfield.com/2026/02/harvey-elliott-unai-emery-calls-out-liverpool-clause/
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I saw that Ginger. Emery loses a bit of respect for me (and I like him). They knew the clauses going into it. Everything was transparent.
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